Help on 2 buttons ID

[crazyjarhead]

Hello everyone. I found 2 buttons yesterday at my new colonial hunting spot. I posted my finds on today's finds and have not had any bites yet. I thought that maybe I would get some ideas on this side. The large button has no markings and appears to be copper. The small naval looking button is copper as well and there are no marking on this as well. It looks like 2 holes have been drilled into it so that it could be worn as a button. I could be totally wrong on this theory. Maybe that's the way it was made. I don't know. It just a little odd to my eyes. any help would be appreciated Thanks for looking Ron

 

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[shaun7]

i don't know what the buttons are but i think your right about the first one!
looks like the loop was lost and someone wanted to carry on using the button!

 

[ivan salis]

think your right on the drilled button --the others appears to look liike time frame wize early 1800's era --say 1820ish flat button type design

 

[CRUSADER]

As per reply in Todays.