Help IDing this copper?

[jayholc77]

Could anyone help me identify this ancient coin? It weighs 3.1g, diameter is 20-21mm, and it is bronze. I think the first few latin letters are IMPER.

Thanks,
Jayholc77

 

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[villagenut]

Although this may not be exact, it may get someone on the right track.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Diocletian-2...LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51c7792c23&_uhb=1

 

[unclemac]

IMPER would indicate emperor i do believe....

 

[Silver Searcher]

It looks like AE coin of Gordian111..

SS

 

[ARC]

My guess... Aurelian... just a guess... the crown is the give away... the back seems hmmm... I might go poke around for ya.

 

[ARC]

p.s. if it is what I think it is... it is actuall NOT bronze but a mixture of silver and copper called "Billon"

 

[ARC]

http://www.lunalucifera.com/Palmyra/Aurelian-8.jpg

 

[ARC]

Errr I could be wrong.... might be a Claudius II Gothicus AE Antoninianus

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Claudius-II...entic-Ancient-Roman-Bronze-Coin-/261085606039

 

[ARC]

Billon antoninianus, Rome, Valerian, Göbl 4d even.... just hard to make out the detail on the reverse.... got a "crick" in my damn neck now... heh

 

[CRUSADER]

Dads thoughts, must be a tough one!:

'Okay after a lot of research and process of elimination I think we are down to ONE most likely ruler possible (albeit the bust looks similar to Aurelian or Gordian III)

The clues are as follows:

At weight and size with a radiate head the coin is an ANTONINIANUS. Obverse has a long series of letters and definitely ends in IANVS AVG. The latter letters narrow the field to:

Aurelian, Bonosus, Diocletian, Domitius Domitianus, Florian, Gordian III, Jotapian, Maximianus, Numerian, Regalian, Valerian I, Valerian II, Volusian

As you can see PXX in the exergue that will rule out earlier emperors and usurpers leaving rulers about AD 270-300:

Aurelian, Diocletian, Florian, Maximianus, Numerian,

Taking the Reverse it is Jupiter. He is standing left typically holding a thunderbolt in right hand and leaning on Sceptre with left. I can see a VAT ending and the legend that normally occupies that pose is:

IOVI CONSERVAT – so that is a Jupiter Reverse and to the trained eye the S and R positions can be discerned too!

This means for the length of Obverse text with the Reverse text the contenders are now

Diocletian, Florian and Maximianus.

Going to Wildwinds Coin ID site will show the options for a PXX exergue (Ticinium Mint) as all of those but the coin shown for Florian (RIC 71) actually has a Diocletian legend (like RIC V 222). Maximianus is a RIC 558 or 559. So one now takes one’s pick between the portraits EXCEPT I believe I can make out

IM preceding the IANVS AVG

So leaves only IMP CM VAL MAXIMIANVS AVG as the Obverse legend - coin dated AD 287 but pity the bust is so worn and shiny as the remaining portrait is not easily seen as him. My first thoughts were a Gordian III or Aurelian! Other legends would be IMP C AN FLORIANVS AVG for Florian and IMP C VAL DIOCLETIANVS AVG for Diocletian. I do not think a R or a T are before the IANVS AVG.'

 

[Silver Searcher]

Dads thoughts, must be a tough one!:

'Okay after a lot of research and process of elimination I think we are down to ONE most likely ruler possible (albeit the bust looks similar to Aurelian or Gordian III)

The clues are as follows:

At weight and size with a radiate head the coin is an ANTONINIANUS. Obverse has a long series of letters and definitely ends in IANVS AVG. The latter letters narrow the field to:

Aurelian, Bonosus, Diocletian, Domitius Domitianus, Florian, Gordian III, Jotapian, Maximianus, Numerian, Regalian, Valerian I, Valerian II, Volusian

As you can see PXX in the exergue that will rule out earlier emperors and usurpers leaving rulers about AD 270-300:

Aurelian, Diocletian, Florian, Maximianus, Numerian,

Taking the Reverse it is Jupiter. He is standing left typically holding a thunderbolt in right hand and leaning on Sceptre with left. I can see a VAT ending and the legend that normally occupies that pose is:

IOVI CONSERVAT – so that is a Jupiter Reverse and to the trained eye the S and R positions can be discerned too!

This means for the length of Obverse text with the Reverse text the contenders are now

Diocletian, Florian and Maximianus.

Going to Wildwinds Coin ID site will show the options for a PXX exergue (Ticinium Mint) as all of those but the coin shown for Florian (RIC 71) actually has a Diocletian legend (like RIC V 222). Maximianus is a RIC 558 or 559. So one now takes one’s pick between the portraits EXCEPT I believe I can make out

IM preceding the IANVS AVG

So leaves only IMP CM VAL MAXIMIANVS AVG as the Obverse legend - coin dated AD 287 but pity the bust is so worn and shiny as the remaining portrait is not easily seen as him. My first thoughts were a Gordian III or Aurelian! Other legends would be IMP C AN FLORIANVS AVG for Florian and IMP C VAL DIOCLETIANVS AVG for Diocletian. I do not think a R or a T are before the IANVS AVG.'

In the reverse I thought it looked like a Trident in left hand, that's why I was thinking perhaps the figure could be Neptune.

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

In the reverse I thought it looked like a Trident in left hand, that's why I was thinking perhaps the figure could be Neptune.

SS

Yeap, Dad said the trident looking thing put him off track for awhile.