✅ SOLVED Help identify two 17-1800s bullets please

[Shark.tooth]

Found these side by side please help me identify

 

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[owlcreek]

Modern bullets

 

[fyrffytr1]

First bullet may be a 45-70 dating from about 1873. Or it could be a more modern muzzle loader one. Precise measurements of diameter length and weight would really help get a correct ID. Show a picture of the bases of both bullets please.

 

[Shark.tooth]

Not sure if this helps at all

 

[fyrffytr1]

If my math is right the longer bullet would measure out to about a .38 caliber so it can't be a 45-70. That most likely means it is a modern bullet. It's funny that both bullets look to measure the same diameter but the shorter one looks smaller in the picture of the bases.

 

[Dfxcobb]

I'm am no means an expert but without proper measurements and weights it is difficult to determine. IMO these are post CW. I have a gallon jug of bullets that some I cannot identify because that are thousands of verities. Yes I would like to know more about the time period and types of bullets used..but unless you dedicate the time and research some are hard to determine..IMO

 

[smokeythecat]

I concur both are post Civil War. The longer one I believe is a modern black powder bullet. Maybe 50-75 years old. Like me!

 

[Shark.tooth]

Thanks guys!

 

[Shark.tooth]

Im thinking this is possibly what the bigger bullet is.

 

[gunsil]

They are modern slugs and for future reference there were no conical bullets used in the 1700s, projectiles for firearms were pretty much round balls at that time.