??? HELP ID 3 Ring (Groove) Mini Bullet ???

[Rogue Relic Hunter]

Please help ID 3 ring (grooves actually) bullet, flat at the tip.

Measurements below:

Diameter .546-.595 inches (depending on how u get those darn calipers on there, flat spot to flat spot, not in the grooves)

Length .975 inches (24.5 mm)

Weight 470 grains (30.46 grams, 1.074 ounces)

Shape *the bullet is FLAT on top.

Bullet has not been fired, a drop I think. base is bent on the bottom edge, a drop I guess. was down about 4-5 inches (in thick woods, under growth), rang up around 70-72 on AT Pro

any information would be appreciated. Want to see what others think it may be.

 

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[vpnavy]

While waiting for a member to pipe in - I pulled this from another TN thread...

Civil War Bullet ID Chart (Sep 05, 2013)

 

[Isaac]

It looks like a .58 Calibur civil war era Minnie ball.

 

[Rogue Relic Hunter]

It looks like a .58 Calibur civil war era Minnie ball.

yes, exactly what i had determined. just wondering if anyone had anything more specific or any other information. the book I have says PISTOL CARBINE and about the same measurements as what i have.

 

[Rogue Relic Hunter]

Someone posted this comment, but later erased it, "Is that a casting seam down the side? If so it may be a modern made bullet."

Is this statement true? I do see a casting seam.

searching the internet the seam is noted on some "authentic" civil war bullets. SO, is the seam indicative of a 'modern' bullet or not?

I am seeing many on internet stating "shows obvious mold seam" and then claiming the bullet to be nose cast.

here is one in the civil war bullet data base with obvious seam. exact seam as on my bullet. SEE PIC BELOW



http://www.baymediapro.com/collection/bullet_details.asp?BID=138

Searching the net i am seeing many with the seam on the bullet and claiming to be civil war. most note the seam in the description, "...and shows obvious mold seams...I have dug a few of these in both Union and Confederate Campsites..."

 

[Kiros32]

Mold seams are quite common on Civil War era bullets, I have several.

 

[Rogue Relic Hunter]

Mold seams are quite common on Civil War era bullets, I have several.

this is what i thought. the op deleted his comment, but I had record of it in email notification. so, perhaps he thought about it and changed his mind. but, it did worry me a bit.

agreed, and i am seeing may posted civil war bullets with same mold seam. headed back to this area on Saturday and a single bullet find motivates you to cover and recover an area, when normally you may have moved somewhere else.

 

[Rogue Relic Hunter]

I notice a mold seam on the .52 cal sharps carbine variant bullet in the pic VPNAVY posted in the ID pic below.

 

[ivan salis]

I see that inside the hollow base ...it looks like a star inside it ..if so most likely a Union made (Washington) 58 union bullet from the civil war

 

[Rogue Relic Hunter]

I see that inside the hollow base ...it looks like a star inside it ..if so most likely a Union made (Washington) 58 union bullet from the civil war

looked down inside with magnifying glass and lots of light. looks like a square hole, or close to square. not a star that i can see. wish we could draw on here, would draw it. let me try to take a pic.

not focusing and have to roll to work. try again later. but, does not look like a star. square tell you anything?

 

[ucvrelics.com]

Standard .58 minnie Union

 

[Rogue Relic Hunter]

Standard .58 minnie Union

headed back out there this weekend. lots of swinging, but it eventually paid off. at least you dont dig a lot of junk in between.