✅ SOLVED Help. Hair pin? Needle of some kind?

[Zomotion]

I found this metal detecting a local park that was a early 1900s home site. Could be an old find... Could be a modern drop... Leaning toward modern.

The item is about 2 inches long. It looks to be a red glass bead at the top. On the back is a ring or hook. I'm stumped, hoping for some help on an ID.

Oh, and the back has what appears to be two marks, but they may just be a result of putting the piece together?

Thanks!

 

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[The_Piratess]

I'm leaning towards older because it does have 2 marks inside stamps on it. I can only see the mark on the right side which is the maker's mark and that is a horseshoe. I can't zoom in close enough to see the country's mark on the left which could also possibly indicate silver and purity. I also think that it is a hairpin because there doesn't appear to be a sharp point on it and because of the hook which may help to anchor it to hair better. If you could post a closer up picture of the marks that would help.

 

[jeff of pa]

Stick Pin.

Not sure for the reason for the open loop .
unless it was originally Closed & had dangly thingy on it,
or unfinished craft stickpin.

 

[reale bill]

Scarf or stick pin.loop probably had a "bangle" hanging from it.
Could be early 1900's

 

[sprailroad]

I'm alittle late on this one, Jeff of pa and reale bill already put out my thoughts on this. I'll bet their right.

 

[ecmo]

Was thinking hat pin that ladies used to attach feathers and decorations to hat.

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[Zomotion]

Here's is the best closeup I can get, looks to be a makers mark. Maybe a hook with an h?

 

[reale bill]

Sears 1897. Scarf and stick pins

 

[Zomotion]

Thank you all for the input! I think I can confidently say it is a scarf and/or stick pin!

I guess the only mystery is to see if anyone can decipher the makers marks

 

[The_Piratess]

Here's is the best closeup I can get, looks to be a makers mark. Maybe a hook with an h?

Hi Zomotion. Thanks for the closeup. You're right the maker's mark on the left does appear to be a small, letter h with maybe a hook going down from the top. I still can't tell what the mark in the stamp on the left is? That is really important to identify the country. Being able to look at specific country's marks greatly narrows down the search for the maker. Can you look at it closer using either a magnifying glass or a jewelers loupe if you have one?

Scarf, stick or hatpin it is old so at least you know that. jeff of pa is right about the open loop on it and I think it had another piece attached there at one time. It looks like the clamped closed loop was pulled open a bit and that's why the other piece is no longer attached to it. I also think that it may be silver, but won't know for sure until you can try to identify the country's mark on the left inside of that stamp.

 

[Zomotion]

Piratess, I've looked at it with a loop, magnifying glass... Even looked at it with a magnifying glass on my phone but still can't get a good idea of what that left mark is... I've been to several websites trying to find something similar nut no real luck.... Closest I could find is a 1933 date mark for Gorham... But the h is supposed to be the date mark correct?

As for the h, I found a similar h in the London marks, similar look for late 1800s I think it was....

With only two marks, am I understanding things correctly that the first mark is the maker and the 2nd is the date?

 

[The_Piratess]

Piratess, I've looked at it with a loop, magnifying glass... Even looked at it with a magnifying glass on my phone but still can't get a good idea of what that left mark is... I've been to several websites trying to find something similar nut no real luck.... Closest I could find is a 1933 date mark for Gorham... But the h is supposed to be the date mark correct?

As for the h, I found a similar h in the London marks, similar look for late 1800s I think it was....

With only two marks, am I understanding things correctly that the first mark is the maker and the 2nd is the date?

In older, silver jewelry the first mark inside of the stamp is the country of origin and the mark also represents the amount of silver that is the standard for that country. The second is the maker's mark. If the maker's is inside of a triangular stamp, then it would be be the importer's mark. Since yours is inside of an octagonal mark, it is the maker's mark.