help date this hallmarked chicago sterling spoon

[snowdogg70]

hi, this one has me stumped as it seems to be a weak strike for a hallmark and the K underneath doesnt seem to match any table i look at. its a full size spoon weighing 30.5 grams. any help or info would be great thanks

 

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[HutSiteDigger]

When you say " seem to match any table i look at " .... I am assuming you mean in the first photo the upper top symbols. Those symbols clarify the manufacture.

Did you dig this spoon or find it like @ a flea market or antique store? I do not recognize the manufacture symbols, I do have a Silverware book that outlines lot of silverware manufactures but will have too look through it later too see if I can find exact match too this one. I am more knowledgeable mostly about like William Rogers silverware and International Silver Company silverware. But I will say without more info about how you got this spoon, it could date anywhere from very late 19th C. too the 1940s .. The spoon is got "COPYRIGHT" on it and most spoons with "COPYRIGHT" on it that I have seen are from the early 1900s, I.e. a 19th century William Rogers spoon would say "Wm. Rogers Mfg. Co" with no COPYRIGHT on it. Most spoons with COPYRIGHT will date early 1900s+. . Just my few thoughts on it! Good luck.

 

[Bryanhashemi]

i believe thats a souvenir spoon. looks like a copyright date starting to come through. 18?? looks worn away though

 

[snowdogg70]

it was actually a garage sale find, got 3 large spoons for 25 cents 2 were silver 1 was plated and this was the only one that was hallmarked.

 

[ctalmadg]

Those look like Birmingham marks and the K is the date. I can't see the first and third mark.. If you can tell what they are I will tell you the date the spoon was made and the assay office and silversmith that did it.

Update.. there are only 4 dates that show up with those mark combinations... 1808, 1833, 1859 and 1884.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Do you know when they started using "COPYRIGHT" on products in England? I know in America most COPYRIGHT artifacts started in like the 1860s and lot of artifacts have PAT. dates on them. Being over in England i am assuming they used COPYRIGHT on there products probably starting in the early 1800s?? Thanks for the info!

U.S. Copyright Office - Information Circular

 

[nhbenz]

Do you know when they started using "COPYRIGHT" on products in England? I know in America most COPYRIGHT artifacts started in like the 1860s and lot of artifacts have PAT. dates on them. Being over in England...

Who's in England?
This is a Gorham marked piece. The date is in the 1880's, abbreviated '82 or '88 or similar (can't read the second #)
Anyway, the conversation here will explain a bit: Gorham Versailles trademark question - SMP Silver Salon Forums

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Was going on Ctals info on Birmingham thinking he meant the Birmingham in the West Midlands of England!

 

[snowdogg70]

man you guys know your stuff, i think we are on the right track now. i will try to get a better pic up

 

[snowdogg70]

this is about the closest i can get without the pic getting blurry.

 

[ctalmadg]

Yes, definitely said England, but with a closer look it does look like Gorham marks. The right mark is the G. I agree with benz.

 

[snowdogg70]

ok so i found a Gorham date letter guide and the only "k" in the list is 1878 and there doesnt seem to be any other years for that letter would i be right in saying its 1878?