Heavy gold mica imposter?

jonordy

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I'm stumped here and what I first was sure was gold colored mica dust and flakes is giving me mixed singles. I have panned out some gold dust and flakes out from a sample of minerals under a strange layered sheperical concretion or tube on a dug out red clay dug out cliff here in Georgia. The spherical concretion is a mystery itself and I would have assumed that it was manmade but unless it was created more than 200 years ago I can rule it out. It may be a lava tube that is rotting or some kind of ancient vent. Below that strange lava like tube on the cliff and above a layer of bedrock is a concentration of gold dust and flakes that I assumed was mica but I took a sample back to play with. Also of note, I kept finding pieces of black non metallic, mostly none magnetic lava looking slag strew everywhere around there. Cut a piece open and occasionally you will be lucky to occasionally see shining metal circle or balls and those are magnetic but they tarnish in a hour and are indistinguishable by 4 hours.


Ok back to the Gold flakes and my confusion.
Although these flakes and dust were miniscule, it was easy to separate the gold mica as it dropped to the bottom quickly and everything else was washed away. I was not trying to be overly careful but I didn't lose flakes and dust and none of the gold stuff floated regardless of size.

I took the largest flake which was the thickness of a home depot receipt and quarter of the size of a sunflower seed and put it directly on gold bullion to check the luster from different angles and it was remarkable how well the 2 matched. If this was mica, the way it shines and it’s color was a dead match as far as we were concerned.

I tested it in 14kt and 18kt gold test and it remained unchanged on one batch and I actually soaked another batch for a long time and came back to see little change but maybe a few pieces broke down or cleaner.

In the largest piece I was able to leave little dent's in it from a ball point pen with gentle pressure.

I put few pieces on the tip of a knife over the gas stove flame until the knife tip glowed, protecting the gold flakes somewhat from the flame and I saw something happen where I thought It was going to melt but it was only the smallest of particles and I can not say for certain what if any reaction happened, but other than getting stuck to the knife I chipped the pieces off and it remained the same.

Why I think it's mica.
Now if I put more pressure on this stuff, it break apart or crumbles but I'm pushing down and probably twitching a bit adding to the tearing. I can reassemble it in a pile and push down with a flat surface and get it to kinda sticks together for whatever thats worth.

I can take the dust and flakes between my fingers and when I roll it, it just falls apart and coats my fingers like mica would. The dust really feels literally feels like flour. I tried a scratch test but the piece was to fragile and although it left a long distinct gold yellow streak I really didn't scratch the piece on the porcelain but smushed it and slide the piece leaving a trail. Does that count?

What is throwing me off is this stuff heavy but is falls apart easier than I think gold would granted the pieces are receipt paper thin and the largest are still tiny. The stuff was heavy enough that when I went to wash out the pickle jar I brought the sample home in, I just left the water faucet running into the jar letting it overflow to clean the dirt out and when I walked back it had gathered a little pile of the gold dust in the bottom and nothing else.

I’ve never heard of anyone doing this before, and I know it sounds nuts, but to test if it’s gold or mica could I not put the sample in the microwave for a couple seconds and see if it sparks or not. I know any other metal I’ve accidently left in the microware sparks so would gold not as well. What happens to mica in the microwave?
 

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Jon,

It sounds like you have gold foil that was formed within the mica over many mucho years of pressure. I'd gather enough to fill a cast iron spoon and see if it will melt into a button, if it does then it's gold foil for sure.

This is only a guess I am not a geologist and neither have I played one on TV or stayed at a Howard Johnson's.

Gramps
 

Need to take the sample to a laboratory with a binocular microscope.

Mica is a plate-like mineral. Under 100x magnification should show strata (layers) that can actually be separated in sheets (similar to vermiculite). While gold can be pressed into sheets, it remains a single sheet, will not bond to itself without considerable pressure, and will have no layering under 100x. Gold leaf is used in many applications for art and other applications. Lightly pounding one side bonds gold leaf onto metal objects, such as brass or bronze statues, making them look much more valuable than they actually are. As Georgia has many hundred years of human habitation, mica is a strong possibility in many streams.

If you have a teaspoon of the stuff, mica will be considerably lighter than a comparable amount of gold.

Some mica is nearly clear, or can have a rose- or even gold-tint to it. At one time, this mica was used for windows, because you can see through it. If you have a copy of Clint Eastwood's High Plains Drifter, Eastwood insisted the windows in the stores be made of mica. Mica windows are also used for some stove windows.
 

Hey Tuberale

Klondike here...

I also have some weird stuff from Georgia, it is a sandy, kind of weird clay mix... Some else arranged an assay and the assayer says there isn't any gold in it... I ran some through my own very sophisticated equipment and came up with a few very small pin points of gold...not enough for any economical value, but there is gold in it none the less...

If you'll take about 6 ounces of the conglomerate to a good assayer, one who knows how to handle placer and not use a fire assay.. you'll get the answer you are looking for, plus how much per ton there is of it...

I have been mining for over 40 years and I know gold... I know assays..and there is some very, very, small trace amounts of gold in my stuff.. and more than likely, some gold in yours too from your description...

Good luck to you

Klondike...
 

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