✅ SOLVED Hammered silver with counter stamp and a copper ????????????

[Broken knee]

What are these coins and what is the stamp? I think the copper is Irish and I have no Idea on the silver?

Thanks, BK

 

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[Iron Patch]

The copper is Scottish king Charles.

 

[Broken knee]

The copper is Scottish king Charles.

IP have you any idea on the date?
BK

 

[Iron Patch]

IP have you any idea on the date?
BK

1670s.

 

[Broken knee]

Nice, how about the silver one?
BK

 

[Iron Patch]

Nice, how about the silver one?
BK

Looks familiar but can't place it. There's lots left so you'll definitely be able to ID it, and then can try to find the countermark. The stamp design reminds me of pre 1600s Spanish reales.

 

[Broken knee]

Looks familiar but can't place it. There's lots left so you'll definitely be able to ID it, and then can try to find the countermark. The stamp design reminds me of pre 1600s Spanish reales.

It's all arrows tied with a ribbon? HH
BK

 

[Bramblefind]

Hi - It looks something like this coin and it has that stamp too-

Netherlands coin with bundle of arrows counterstamp - Coin Community Forum

then I found this eBay listing - photo is missing but it seems to explain the stamp:

1679 Netherlands Utrecht Countermarked Silver 6 Stuivers Coin XF | eBay

During the late 17th century many circulating coins were found to be underweight or foregeries filled with copper. In 1693 coins meeting the legal requirements were countermarked with a bundle of arrows for general circulation within the Netherlands.

 

[Broken knee]

Hi - It looks something like this coin and it has that stamp too-

Netherlands coin with bundle of arrows counterstamp - Coin Community Forum
Awesome Id that's it right down to the #6 on the left side! Thank you!!
BK
then I found this eBay listing - photo is missing but it seems to explain the stamp:

1679 Netherlands Utrecht Countermarked Silver 6 Stuivers Coin XF | eBay

During the late 17th century many circulating coins were found to be underweight or foregeries filled with copper. In 1693 coins meeting the legal requirements were countermarked with a bundle of arrows for general circulation within the Netherlands.

Awesome Id that's it right down to the #6 on the left side! Thank you!!
BK