Hammered silver coin from Maryland

[aquachigger]

Hi All...a friend of mine found this piece of hammered silver near Frederick, Maryland. It is VERY unusual to find any hammered around here. Does anyone care to point me in the right direction to get a possible I.D. for him? The coin is smaller than a dime. Thanks...Beau

 

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[CRUSADER]

Hi All...a friend of mine found this piece of hammered silver near Frederick, Maryland. It is VERY unusual to find any hammered around here. Does anyone care to point me in the right direction to get a possible I.D. for him? The coin is smaller than a dime. Thanks...Beau

one of our European cousins will know, as I believe it looks familar to some Northern Europe types.

What I can say from the picture, is it is NOT British/Scottish/Irish.
It looks to be a Silver mix, ie a billion & not a high grade Silver (probably 50%).

Total guess would be late 1600s early 1700s

I will watch & learn...

 

[Mackaydon]

I read the word HEID.
At one time there was a German State by the name of Heid and Bleid that issued coins.
Maybe.......
Don....

 

[aquachigger]

That would make sense I guess. This area was settled in part by Germans. I hope someone can do a positive i.d. Thanks so far...Beau

 

[Mackaydon]

They did mint a silver 'teston' in 1596, but I can't find a pic.

 

[Tubecity]

My father's side of the family settled in that western part of Maryland & Somerset county, Pa. in the
1750-1760 era. They were Amish or of the Brethern or Dunkard faith. As aquachigger posted, it was
mainly settled by the German Amish. The area of 'Bruderstahl' or Brother's Valley in nearby Somerset
Co., Pa. is an example of this. Good chance it's a coin brought from the 'Old Country'. I still have relatives
there & will be in that area this coming weekend.

 

[CRUSADER]

From what I can tell, I think its date is between 1580-1620 & is of a German States, Prussian or Polish

 

[Mackaydon]

It just dawned on me that HEID could also be the abbreviation for HEIDELBURG.

 

[Retired Sarge]

This is what I can figure out so far I think! Could be that it reads "COM MONT DO IN HEID ET" Look at the coin at the following link looks like the bottom half of the shield design is on the OP's coin. The 2 fish on the right, and the eagle banner on the left?

http://www.coinarchives.com/8bba2b89623368e1e063dcca390bb5b2/img/meister/009/image01765.jpg

Mike
TSgt, USAF Retired

 

[Mackaydon]

And a similar one here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Iohan-Frid-small-silver-rare-Coin-1622-/320577379844

 

[CRUSADER]

This is what I can figure out so far I think! Could be that it reads "COM MONT DO IN HEID ET" Look at the coin at the following link looks like the bottom half of the shield design is on the OP's coin. The 2 fish on the right, and the eagle banner on the left?

http://www.coinarchives.com/8bba2b89623368e1e063dcca390bb5b2/img/meister/009/image01765.jpg

Mike
TSgt, USAF Retired

And a similar one here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Iohan-Frid-small-silver-rare-Coin-1622-/320577379844

I've seen these in my searches as well, but the letters I can make out don't fit anything, I can see:

(Starts with a crossed kinda leaf design, directly above the I.K which could be an old J.K) ET.??C.COM.MON.DO.COM.HEID

 

[aquachigger]

Wow, I think you guys are just about there! I followed the links to the pictures, but didn't see a country of origin. Did you? Thanks...

 

[Mackaydon]

Germany or German State

 

[CRUSADER]

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,347520.0/topicseen.html

Please read Mikes attempt (as he lives there), seems we are right to think German State & its likely milled & not hammered (they were some of the first in Europe to adopt this method - clever sods)

 

[aquachigger]

Hey Crusader...thanks for all of your work on the coin. Do you think we are close enough to mark it solved?

 

[CRUSADER]

Hey Crusader...thanks for all of your work on the coin. Do you think we are close enough to mark it solved?

Personally no, but its your call. It rare to stump this great team