Hammered medieval Portuguese coin

[Corlett]

Hi Guys & Girls

Another little hammered `` Ceitil ´´ from Portugal

Ceitil Copper ( hammered )
King Afonso V ( 1438 / 1481 )
20 mm
1,9 grs


The `` Ceitil ´´ is the equivalent to the farthing, First minted under King Afonso V . Its name comes from the name sextile, ie one sixth, these coins were minted from 1438 till 1578.

 

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[Westfront]

Very good condition for a copper. Cool!

 

[Corlett]

Thanks Westfront, normally the copper hammered are very worn... I was lucky with this one..

 

[ivobg]

Cool coin
And good luck with the romans

 

[winslow]

Nice detail for a farthing type of coin. Never saw one of these before so thanks for posting!

 

[vpnavy]

 

[Msbeepbeep]

Great shape, congrats!

 

[mirage83]

Nice find. Not a lot of Portuguese coins show up on TN.

 

[CASPER-2]

 

[Westfront]

Thanks Westfront, normally the copper hammered are very worn... I was lucky with this one..

So true. I have not a single one IDable. And i like medieval coins so much!

 

[DigIron2]

bet that sucker was pretty deep, being from the 15th 16th century.Neat ooold coin

 

[Corlett]

bet that sucker was pretty deep, being from the 15th 16th century.Neat ooold coin

About 6 inches, not a lot more, due to being so light & the density of the soil some are found on the surface.
This one was found on a hill ( high point )
I have heard comments & threads that the ones from agricultural fields are in worse condition due to the influence of fertilizers & pesticides in the soil....


Westfrond said `` So true. I have not a single one IDable. And i like medieval coins so much! ´´

You will end up finding that `` fortunate spot ´´ where the soil has been kind, it just mekes the find tat more special...

Which kind of medieval do you find in Germany ?

 

[treblehunter]

Don't see to many of those on this side of the pond. That is very old, very cool.

 

[Aussie]

Wonderful coin, thanks for sharing.
Ahh so that's what unfrozen ground looks like! I'd forgotten.

 

[CRUSADER]

That's a little different, pretty sure we have not had one of those. But like you mention, if it came from a ploughed field it might just be a blank.

 

[Westfront]

Westfrond said `` So true. I have not a single one IDable. And i like medieval coins so much! ´´

You will end up finding that `` fortunate spot ´´ where the soil has been kind, it just mekes the find tat more special...

Which kind of medieval do you find in Germany ?

I rarely detect anything other than plowed fields and we have lots of them. Farmland from stoneage on. No other county around has so little forest like us with the bigger medieval cities far away. So medieval finds are rare, most are everyday commodities, buckles, belt hanger and so with the occasional silver coin. Coppers turn up more often, most are complete toast.

 

[jewelerguy]

super cool find

 

[Corlett]

I rarely detect anything other than plowed fields and we have lots of them. Farmland from stoneage on. No other county around has so little forest like us with the bigger medieval cities far away. So medieval finds are rare, most are everyday commodities, buckles, belt hanger and so with the occasional silver coin. Coppers turn up more often, most are complete toast.

If there is a possibility of finding some higher land, which would not have suffered modern agricultureyou may be lucky, but permissions are not too easy to come by. I believe Germany is similiar to Portugal as for metal detecting laws, very difficult.

In Portugal you requier a license, I have pleaded for one more than 5 times over the period of a year, and they simply do not grant licenses. I am a FID and a NCMD member in England but in Portugal I have to detect against carefully, There is no problem when I am on private land with permissions, which I allways respect, but beach detecting, which I love is another issue, the maritime police fine you and take your detector. We do do it at night which makes things a bit more difficult but is good training for the ears, but allways in fear that one day we will be fined.
I have been working hard to try and get laws changed in Portugal for beache detecting, for I see no inconvenience in people wishing to do there hobby on the beach and removing literally bags fulls of trash, and receiving so little in return, it is an enviromental favour we do to the planet..

Anyway

Today I went back to the spot for on another forum someone pointed out thar near the propointer in the hole there seamed to be another coin, and I thought I had made an amutures mistake by not double checking the hole. I couldn´t sleep thinking there may have been a hoard there.

I wasn´t that lucky, the photo was deceiving and no such hoard was found.

I did on the other hand find a 1925 10 Centavos and a bronze needla which I believe to be medieval..

 

[Westfront]

Getting permission is not difficult for me Corlett, i know many landowners and one lends me to another. I also have a license from the archies to detect fields.
Congrats on the needle! Never seen one posted here!

 

[DigIron2]

About 6 inches, not a lot more, due to being so light & the density of the soil some are found on the surface.
This one was found on a hill ( high point )
I have heard comments & threads that the ones from agricultural fields are in worse condition due to the influence of fertilizers & pesticides in the soil....


Westfrond said `` So true. I have not a single one IDable. And i like medieval coins so much! ´´

You will end up finding that `` fortunate spot ´´ where the soil has been kind, it just mekes the find tat more special...

Which kind of medieval do you find in Germany ?

Guess it depends on what kind of ground it comes out of. I dug a colonial half dime smaller and thinner than that,and that little sucker was close to a foot deep almost.I was just figuring with that being a few centuries older, it was deep in the ground.awesome find