Ground Zero - The Taboo of Treasure Hunting a Mass Grave

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22 years ago, on 9/11/2001 the World Trade Center towers of NYC were destroyed. Thousands perished in the wake of the attacks and many thousands more in the subsequent wars that followed.

No amount of time can pass that will make discussing this subject easy as this tragedy surpasses almost all comprehension. The truth of the matter is however, that much like the loss of the Titanic in 1912, the loss of the World Trade Center in 2001 consisted of more than the loss of human life, it was also a colossal financial loss that is seldom discussed in respect for the aforementioned victims. But I think it is about time we discussed the lost treasure of the World Trade Center and revisit the men, the women, the salvage workers, and the looters, who sought to bring it back to the surface.

As the towers collapsed their remains scattered over a large area and burried many smaller buildings under countless tons of debris. Many of these small buildings contained banks, vaults and luxury stores, and for many months these places were completely sealed under over 50 feet of steel and concrete. Lower Manhattan, from September 2001 to mid-2002, was in many ways akin to the city of Pompeii, a large section of a metropolitan area burried, sealed, and locked in a permanent state of tragedy waiting to be rediscovered.

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Five months into the salvage effort this photo was taken. It was taken by a friend of mine, and this is the first time I am sharing it publicly. It depicts a crewman unearthing a hoard of wine from inside a recently opened chamber, part of a crushed store. Such chambers and air pockets were a common discovery as the salvage workers inched deeper and deeper down through the debris.

Very little is written of this strange time and place that existed for several months within the shadow of the collapsed Trade Center. Tales exist, that are substantiated by my friends as well as documented in NYC police reports, of men breaking into the exclusion zone to illegally tunnel into and loot the banks and stores buried below.

Millions of dollars in gold bullion, diamonds, jewlery, Rollex watches, and a great variety of other treasures were stolen in these raids.

In the months following September 2001 through to the early months of 2002, salvage crews broke through to entirely intact structures, the deepest places under the debris unscathed by the tremendous weight above them. Here they discovered shops, news stands and cafes completely frozen in time. Breakfast still sat on plates upon tables, coffee still in cups, purses still resting on chairs, even ATM machines still with the receipts of their very last customers, the time recorded on them from the exact moment the attacks had started.

By the end of the year 2002 all these macabre time capsules were completely demolished. It was a strange world that existed but briefly in a time 22 years ago. Some try to forget, others don't want to talk about it, and many more find it insensitive to even mention. Growing up as a kid in NYC the idea of exploring the pile at Ground Zero and looking for treasure was one of my dreams, but it was probably best I never got the chance. At the very least I knew many people who did get the chance, firemen and salvage workers, and they shared their stories with me. The truth is most of them didn't find anything of value, they found bodies and bones.


The following are some more photos taken by my friends at Ground Zero from this strange time and place, these have been in my posession for many years and have never been shared publicly until now (these are all non-graphic images only):
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Millions of dollars in gold bullion, diamonds, jewlery, Rollex watches, and a great variety of other treasures were stolen in these raids.
Was anyone ever caught and prosecuted?
I remember them digging out the lower levels of one building and loading out gold bars. They went after those right away. No surprise there.
Who is "they" in this story?
 

Was anyone ever caught and prosecuted?

Who is "they" in this story?


Yes. November 25th 2001 account reported in the New York Post:

They were the zeroes among the heroes at ground zero – more than a dozen men and women accused of doing the unconscionable: tomb raiding.

They allegedly looted stores, helped themselves to relief supplies, picked up whatever they saw of value on the dusty ground and pillaged rescue equipment from the trucks of dead firefighters.

In the weeks since the Sept. 11 terror attack, more than 130 men and women have been arrested for sneaking into the disaster site – a place many call sacred – and committing crimes there.

The vast majority are charged with minor infractions, mostly trespassing on the 16-acre restricted site to gawk, take pictures and lend a hand to the rescue effort despite repeated orders to leave for their own safety.

But it is the dozen or so “zeroes” who entered the site with intent to steal and capitalize on the tragedy who have most angered those connected with the recovery and salvage effort.

Most of the looting happened within days or even hours of the tragedy – when the blood of the slain was still fresh, and the trapped and injured were still calling for help.

“How do they live with themselves?” asked firefighter Billy Hennessy, who caught one looter stealing equipment from an abandoned truck whose five firefighters would never return.

“How do they go to bed and sleep at night?” he asked.

Case files obtained by The Post detail the acts of these suspected grave robbers, men and women who face no more penalty than any run-of-the-mill thief or burglar, and many of whom are currently free on bail. Here are a few:

* Anthony McNally, 41, of Long Island City, Queens. Earlier this month, McNally was released from jail after pleading guilty to loading up his van with thousands of dollars in FDNY equipment and clothing only eight hours after the collapse.

“I’m safeguarding this,” he lied to a firefighter who confronted him.

* Johnny Dunham, 26, of Morris Heights, The Bronx. The unemployed security guard admits possessing seven diamond and platinum watches, one of them alone worth $15,000, from the looted Tourneau watch store at 5 World Trade Center.

He insists he was at ground zero Sept. 12 “to try and help.” Cops say he helped only himself.

* Mark Konsistorum, 42, of Long Island City, Queens, and Martin Ross, 30, of Glen Head, L.I. These two were allegedly caught pocketing watches – with price tags still dangling – at the same Tourneau store the next day.

Cops say Konsistorum, who flashed his expired correction-officer shield and insisted “I’m on the job,” took a $975 Hunter Swiss Army watch. They say Martin, who insisted “I’m down here looking for people,” took a $2,595 titanium Seiko watch.

* Patrick O’Malley, 23, of Bath Beach, Brooklyn. Cops stopped O’Malley on Sept. 23 at a checkpoint on Liberty Street when he couldn’t produce an FDNY ID card. That’s because O’Malley has never been a fireman – although he was wearing an FDNY helmet, turnout coat, shirt, uniform pants, boots and duty belt, and carrying FDNY dress shirts and a dress blue uniform in a garment bag.

Cops say he admits swiping the stuff from a firehouse, at the base of the World Trade Center, that lost five men and was shattered by debris.

O’Malley told cops he worked at the site from Sept. 11-15, helping dig and ferry supplies “to try to bring some order to this situation.

“I got a little carried away with the whole thing,” he admitted.

* Aaron Minter, 29, of the Upper East Side, and Oren Mehumar, 26, of Williamsburg, Brooklyn. Cops say they found this pair at 2 in the morning on Sept. 12, prowling the Albee Square Jewelers at Broadway and Cortlandt Street with a pair of 3-foot bolt-cutters.

They were carrying several large Duane Reade bags stuffed with items from the drugstore, and an FDNY belt-rope harness, cops said.

Both had the words “Search and Rescue Crew” written in marker on their upper left arms, cops said. They claimed they took cameras, cell phones, even boxes of condoms from the damaged Duane Reade store at Broadway and Pine Street “for the cops and firemen.”

It's all an extremely shady, and as I said earlier, a seldom discussed issue. Nobody wants to talk about the looting, or what exactly happened in that place.


William Langewiesche’s wrote a book called “American Ground: Unbuilding the World Trade Center” where he claims the firefighters had looted stores filled with merchandise; most notably a smashed fire engine was filled with jeans. In addition, he said that firefighters tried hard to break into the safe of the Bank of Nova Scotia which was filled with gold and silver. The NYFD disputes this of course.

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Another article on looting made September 21st:
 

Yes. November 25th 2001 account reported in the New York Post:

They were the zeroes among the heroes at ground zero – more than a dozen men and women accused of doing the unconscionable: tomb raiding.

They allegedly looted stores, helped themselves to relief supplies, picked up whatever they saw of value on the dusty ground and pillaged rescue equipment from the trucks of dead firefighters.

In the weeks since the Sept. 11 terror attack, more than 130 men and women have been arrested for sneaking into the disaster site – a place many call sacred – and committing crimes there.

The vast majority are charged with minor infractions, mostly trespassing on the 16-acre restricted site to gawk, take pictures and lend a hand to the rescue effort despite repeated orders to leave for their own safety.

But it is the dozen or so “zeroes” who entered the site with intent to steal and capitalize on the tragedy who have most angered those connected with the recovery and salvage effort.

Most of the looting happened within days or even hours of the tragedy – when the blood of the slain was still fresh, and the trapped and injured were still calling for help.

“How do they live with themselves?” asked firefighter Billy Hennessy, who caught one looter stealing equipment from an abandoned truck whose five firefighters would never return.

“How do they go to bed and sleep at night?” he asked.

Case files obtained by The Post detail the acts of these suspected grave robbers, men and women who face no more penalty than any run-of-the-mill thief or burglar, and many of whom are currently free on bail. Here are a few:

* Anthony McNally, 41, of Long Island City, Queens. Earlier this month, McNally was released from jail after pleading guilty to loading up his van with thousands of dollars in FDNY equipment and clothing only eight hours after the collapse.

“I’m safeguarding this,” he lied to a firefighter who confronted him.

* Johnny Dunham, 26, of Morris Heights, The Bronx. The unemployed security guard admits possessing seven diamond and platinum watches, one of them alone worth $15,000, from the looted Tourneau watch store at 5 World Trade Center.

He insists he was at ground zero Sept. 12 “to try and help.” Cops say he helped only himself.

* Mark Konsistorum, 42, of Long Island City, Queens, and Martin Ross, 30, of Glen Head, L.I. These two were allegedly caught pocketing watches – with price tags still dangling – at the same Tourneau store the next day.

Cops say Konsistorum, who flashed his expired correction-officer shield and insisted “I’m on the job,” took a $975 Hunter Swiss Army watch. They say Martin, who insisted “I’m down here looking for people,” took a $2,595 titanium Seiko watch.

* Patrick O’Malley, 23, of Bath Beach, Brooklyn. Cops stopped O’Malley on Sept. 23 at a checkpoint on Liberty Street when he couldn’t produce an FDNY ID card. That’s because O’Malley has never been a fireman – although he was wearing an FDNY helmet, turnout coat, shirt, uniform pants, boots and duty belt, and carrying FDNY dress shirts and a dress blue uniform in a garment bag.

Cops say he admits swiping the stuff from a firehouse, at the base of the World Trade Center, that lost five men and was shattered by debris.

O’Malley told cops he worked at the site from Sept. 11-15, helping dig and ferry supplies “to try to bring some order to this situation.

“I got a little carried away with the whole thing,” he admitted.

* Aaron Minter, 29, of the Upper East Side, and Oren Mehumar, 26, of Williamsburg, Brooklyn. Cops say they found this pair at 2 in the morning on Sept. 12, prowling the Albee Square Jewelers at Broadway and Cortlandt Street with a pair of 3-foot bolt-cutters.

They were carrying several large Duane Reade bags stuffed with items from the drugstore, and an FDNY belt-rope harness, cops said.

Both had the words “Search and Rescue Crew” written in marker on their upper left arms, cops said. They claimed they took cameras, cell phones, even boxes of condoms from the damaged Duane Reade store at Broadway and Pine Street “for the cops and firemen.”

It's all an extremely shady, and as I said earlier, a seldom discussed issue. Nobody wants to talk about the looting, or what exactly happened in that place.


William Langewiesche’s wrote a book called “American Ground: Unbuilding the World Trade Center” where he claims the firefighters had looted stores filled with merchandise; most notably a smashed fire engine was filled with jeans. In addition, he said that firefighters tried hard to break into the safe of the Bank of Nova Scotia which was filled with gold and silver. The NYFD disputes this of course.

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Another article on looting made September 21st:
Wow! Thanks for sharing!
 

Wow! Thanks for sharing!
Makes you think how much loot was stashed in a drain pipe by some looter and forgoten and to this day remains right under pedestrians noses. Here's a fun somewhat related treasure story that I learned of a few years ago. As far as I am aware it has never been reported on...

Here in NYC we use to have toll booths on all our major bridges but around a decade or so ago the city decided to demolish these booths and install plate-reading sensors instead. Here's the funny part though, as workers were disassembling the toll booths they found millions of dollars in cash stashed in every single conceivable crevice.

For decades unscrupulous toll workers had been hiding stolen money in vents, behind wall panels, under the floor tiles, everywhere. Then when the coast was clear they would take it all in one go, or so they hoped. Many of them obviously never got to escape with their loot and it just stayed in the booth, likely being added and subtracted to by subsequent toll workers. Imagine being a demolition worker and half way through breaking a wall down with a sledgehammer a waterfall of money collapses down onto you, modern day pirate treasure, just don't let the foreman see.
 

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