Government healthcare equals fascism?

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Hey, all...This comes from Dennis Prager, a media personality I find interesting...

I cannot count the number of times I heard liberal professors and liberal writers quote the phrase: "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

The phrase is brilliant. There is actually no threat to America of fascism coming from the right. The essence of the American right, after all, is less government; and fascism, by definition, demands ever larger government.

Therefore, if there is a real fascist threat to America, it comes from the left, whose appetite for state power is essentially unlimited. But because the left has so long dominated American intellectual, academic, artistic, and media life, it has succeeded in implanting fear of the right.

I have never written that there is a threat of fascism in America. I always considered the idea overwrought. But now I believe there really is such a threat -- and it will come draped not in an American flag, but in the name of tolerance and health.

Before explaining what this means, let's be clear about what this does not mean.

First, it does not mean, or have anything in common with, Nazism. Nazism may have been a form of fascism. But Nazism was a unique form of fascism and a unique evil. It was race-based and it was genocidal. No other expression of fascism was race-based. And not all fascism is genocidal. So my fear that the American left is moving America toward an expression of fascism in no way implies anything Nazi-like or genocidal.

Second, it is not liberals or liberalism that presents a threat of fascism. It is the left. Liberals of the 1940s to 1970s such as John F. Kennedy, Harry Truman, Hubert Humphrey, Henry "Scoop" Jackson, Daniel Patrick Moynihan and so many others were not leftists. They were liberals.

But liberalism has been taken over by the left. There are virtually no non-left liberals.

The left now has a president who is a true leftist who is asserting unprecedented presidential power through his cabinet and myriad other agencies (such as the Environmental Protection Agency) and through presidential decrees. The left has taken over the universities and, increasingly, high schools and elementary schools. It dominates the news and entertainment media. And many judges and courts are leftist -- meaning that their decisions are guided by leftism more than by the law or the Constitution.

With all this power, the left controls more and more of the life of the American citizen. And when nothing stops the left, the left doesn't stop.

Take tolerance.

Last week, the New Mexico Supreme Court ruled that an event photographer's refusal on religious grounds to shoot the commitment ceremony of a same-sex couple amounted to illegal discrimination.

The photographer had never objected to photographing gays. She did not, however, wish to be part of a ceremony to which she religiously objected. In America today, thanks to myriad laws and progressive justices, people can go to prison for refusing to participate in an event to which they object.

This is what happened to a florist in Washington state who had always sold flowers to gay customers but refused to be the florist for a gay wedding: sued and fined.

This is what happened to a baker in Oregon who had always sold his goods to gays but refused to provide his products to a gay wedding: sued and fined.

This is what happened in Massachusetts, Illinois and elsewhere to Catholic Charities, historically the largest adoption agency in America. Their placing children with married (man-woman) couples, rather than with same-sex couples, was deemed intolerant and a violation of the law. In those and other states, Catholic Charities has left adoption work.

In the name of tolerance -- and fighting sexual harassment -- five- and six-year-old boys all over the country are brought to the police for innocently touching a girl.

In the name of tolerance, girls' high school teams in California and elsewhere must now accept male players who feel female.

In the name of tolerance, businesses cannot fire a man who one day shows up on the sales floor dressed as a woman.

For the left, tolerance does not mean tolerance. It means first, acceptance. And second, celebration. That is totalitarianism: You not only have to live with what you may differ with, dear citizen, you have to celebrate it or pay a steep price.

Meanwhile, in the name of health, there is a similar intrusion into the life of the individual. We saw it in New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's call for a law limiting the amount of soda a person can order at one time.

In the name of health, people are banned from smoking outdoors, cigar stores are prohibited from allowing customers to smoke inside, and, incredibly, California is about to ban electronic "cigarettes" as if they were real cigarettes, even though they contain no tobacco, nothing is burning, and they emit only water vapor.

In the name of health, some businesses, like the Bert Fish Medical Center in Florida and Kids II, Inc. (Baby Einstein, Disney Baby) do not hire those who smoke at home. In the name of health, for the first time in American history, what you do -- legally -- at home will be reason for companies not hiring or terminating employees.

In the name of safety, first-grade boys are suspended from schools for playfully aiming a pencil at another boy and "shooting" him.

And then there are the ubiquitous "re-education" and "rehabilitation" seminars that the allegedly insensitive need to take at both private and government workplaces and the speech codes at nearly all universities.

The only question is: Will Americans awaken to the increasingly rapid deprivation of their freedoms -- not draped in an American flag but draped in tolerance and health?
 

The Lies Of Dennis Prager - FailedMessiah.com


Prager grew up Orthodox but left Orthodoxy in his teens. His is a leading right wing talk radio host and columnist who positions himself as a bridge between Evangelicals and right wing Catholics on one side and haredi, Orthodox and right of center Jews on the other. He tries to unite them around a common hatred of radical Islam and on theological-political issues


right wing Jewish person???
how confused can one be?

heres another quote"Besides his normal intellectual dishonesty, Prager's "Judeo-Christian" formulation is largely a 20th century construct that did not exist throughout most of the past 2000 years. It is as if Prager shot an arrow into the side of building, drew a circle around it and crowed that religion was an expert marksman because the arrow was in the middle of the target he drew. It is profoundly dishonest – and completely idiotic.
 

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You have a real hate going on pip. Frankly we may need to get you an intervention.
Do you or do you not see the BOcare as a government sponsored corporation?
 

So far left, what he says doesn't even matter anymore........by his posts, he has made himself irrelivant. :sleepy2:
 

So far left, what he says doesn't even matter anymore........by his posts, he has made himself irrelivant. :sleepy2:

Be careful RF over the last year we have lost almost all the opposite of RIGHT people because they are easily offended. I personally enjoy all the info on this site. Most prove Doom and gloom around the corner. If it wasn't for people like pip we would have no humor on this site.
 

The Lies Of Dennis Prager - FailedMessiah.com


Prager grew up Orthodox but left Orthodoxy in his teens. His is a leading right wing talk radio host and columnist who positions himself as a bridge between Evangelicals and right wing Catholics on one side and haredi, Orthodox and right of center Jews on the other. He tries to unite them around a common hatred of radical Islam and on theological-political issues


right wing Jewish person???
how confused can one be?

heres another quote"Besides his normal intellectual dishonesty, Prager's "Judeo-Christian" formulation is largely a 20th century construct that did not exist throughout most of the past 2000 years. It is as if Prager shot an arrow into the side of building, drew a circle around it and crowed that religion was an expert marksman because the arrow was in the middle of the target he drew. It is profoundly dishonest – and completely idiotic.

Come on, Mr. Pip, sheesh! I never gave any backing to Dennis Prager in my post...none...except that I "find him interesting". The points he makes about healthcare in this country being used to limit the freedoms of the citizens is the subject of the post here. "Not" the personal beliefs of Mr. Prager, just the good points he makes concerning freedom, and the threat it is under which is disguised as healthcare these days.

Respectfully, can you please stick to the subject of my original post? If you want to bash Mr Prager, you are free to start your own post listing your own disagreements with his views, and I will read it with an open mind! But please comment on the content of this article not on the person who wrote it.

Throughout world history it has been a great sign of intellectual ignorance and political folly to "kill the messenger" when one doesn't like his message. Did you really want to dis the messenger here and not debate his message? I would have hoped you are wiser than that.
 

Be careful RF over the last year we have lost almost all the opposite of RIGHT people because they are easily offended. I personally enjoy all the info on this site. Most prove Doom and gloom around the corner. If it wasn't for people like pip we would have no humor on this site.

He does provide some levity. It is nice to have some slapstick now and then! Loved the 3 Stooges. I am convinced.

C'mon back PIP! Sorry?
 

The Lies Of Dennis Prager - FailedMessiah.com


Prager grew up Orthodox but left Orthodoxy in his teens. His is a leading right wing talk radio host and columnist who positions himself as a bridge between Evangelicals and right wing Catholics on one side and haredi, Orthodox and right of center Jews on the other. He tries to unite them around a common hatred of radical Islam and on theological-political issues


right wing Jewish person???
how confused can one be?

heres another quote"Besides his normal intellectual dishonesty, Prager's "Judeo-Christian" formulation is largely a 20th century construct that did not exist throughout most of the past 2000 years. It is as if Prager shot an arrow into the side of building, drew a circle around it and crowed that religion was an expert marksman because the arrow was in the middle of the target he drew. It is profoundly dishonest – and completely idiotic.

So you want to use a site that basically pits one religion against another as proof of your point? Typical left wing propaganda that beats on someone because they don't believe what they are told to believe.

So much for the left wing ideal of tolerance, huh?
 

Gee, Y'all...I wanted to discuss the idea of the Government disguising their attempt to limit citizen's freedom by calling it healthcare, guess I should have posted this instead...Hey! look at me! I found another clad quarter!!! :sad11:
 

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