Good research + permission = 1600s relics and silver coins

Bill D. (VA)

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Sometimes A + B does not equal C in this hobby, but it did for me today. I took a break from the early colonial site Dan and I have been hitting recently, and resumed working on my little “project” that I’ve been involved with over the last 2-3 years trying to locate a long-lost early-to-mid 1600s site which even the historical folks haven’t been able to find. In the last year or so I’ve been systematically getting permission from local landowners and searching all fields within this area trying to locate the site, but no luck so far. I was able to gain permission to another area yesterday, and made a trip there in the afternoon to give it an initial walk-around. This particular spot caught my eye after checking out the CW era Gilmer map for this part of the county just the other evening. It showed a nice cleared area precisely where this property was located, but no home was shown there. Based on past experience this was a strong clue that an earlier house site might have existed at that spot. It had a beautiful looking knoll in the back of the property which screamed “early homesite” to me. As I started scanning the knoll I was expecting to immediately find an iron patch and see some scattered brick and pottery. But my detector was almost dead quiet and I thought my efforts were going to be a bust. Eventually I got my first hit, and the little intact colonial buckle I dug caught me off guard and really got me going. It was a slow process, but I gradually started recovering early artifacts, many from the 1600s. These mostly took the form of buttons and buckles, but I finally got a nice surprise when a very early silver coin popped out. I didn’t specifically recognize it, but it’s probably an early cob. Part of the date was showing (“xx17”), and I believe it’s from 1617 based on its looks. Later another nice looking cut reale dated 1736 also revealed itself in the sandy soil. Some other interesting early brass items were also dug during the 2 hour hunt plus a 1600s nipple button. Not sure how loaded this site might be, but seeing how I only covered a small fraction of it and found quite a few early relics there’s got to be more waiting to be discovered in this great looking spot. I also do not believe this is the “holy grail” site I’ve been trying to locate for reasons I won’t go into here. But that gives me added incentive to continue my quest for this site.

Sorry for the pics being out of order, but for some reason pics are sometimes placed in different position in a post than the way they were uploaded. This seems to be a common problem on this site.
 

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Looks like you are on to something ... have fun with that one !!
 

Sweet finds.your on a roll.That spot looks to be a great one.keep up the great work.
 

Definitely 17th century finds. Are you sure that's a cob?
 

joeyfresh said:
Definitely 17th century finds. Are you sure that's a cob?

Ok its a cob. I was now able to see all the pic (stupid tnet app)
 

Bill, those are amazing finds. I am seriously jealous now, lol. Can't wait to see what else you find there!
 

Good post Bill. Glad to see your research is paying off. Look forward to seeing what you dig there. Tennessee digger
 

Sorry for the pics being out of order, but for some reason pics are sometimes placed in different position in a post than the way they were uploaded. This seems to be a common problem on this site.

I KNOW that research is the absolute key to this hobby. But, it appears that as one gets old, they tend to get lazy as well. LOL My taking time for the research part has been sadly lacking until just lately. Working on one right now that once figured may be very fruitful. Maybe colonial.

Anyway, it's wonderful to see the labor come to fruition as yours is doing now. That's a great job all around.

About the pictures in order? I was having the same issue. There's two ways that helped me. If you're just using the attachment function, it seemed to help me to get the pictures in order/sorted on my pc first. But, that doesn't work all the time. The way that does work every time is if you use the "insert image" function of the tool bar on the post window. It lets you better place the pictures where you want them. Just a thought.

Thanks for sharing the wonderful finds and best of luck!

HH!
 

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Nice hunt there Bill. Definitely dipping back into the 1600s with that stuff - might be some hammered silver on the horizon. That tool in the last pic is interesting....maybe the UK boys can ID it.
 

Amazing finds, but that's almost expected now after observing your recent postings. I hope you find the site you're looking for, but this one is no slouch!
 

Bill, your becoming the "Guru" of research for me, Thats all I got time for now(24 hr. watching my 80 yr old dad)
But it does put down places for future looking. Thanks for sharing the pictures and congrat's on all the finds.
Hope you find your "Grail" soon...............HH
 

What you have is an 18th C Pastry Cutter/Jigger.
UK Finds Database - - - UKDFD
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Very nice silver as per norm.

Thanks again Cru as always. Never even heard of a colonial pastry cutter much less found one. Guess this has to be a homesite and not a military camp.
 

Beautiful finds, Bill! And yes, the out of order pics is a bit frustrating at times. Not the end of the world, but it would be nice to get that little glitch fixed. Congrats again, Bill! Awesome way to get back on that coin streak!
 

Excellent early finds! The silver is killer! I hope you find your "Holy Grail" spot. Make sue you post all of the finds when you do:icon_thumleft:



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So nice when a plan come together - looks like you on it Bill
 

Nice collection. Where's the stuff from today!!!!! LOL
 

Congrat on another great hunt. You definitely have the research thing figured out an just as important you have a knack for getting permission to hunt these sites. Can't wait to see what else turns up!
 

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