Gold Bar, or scrap junk..

[itzyoboyandrew]

I found this thing,.. after washing off the first layer of rust... it looks like gold?? so what im wondering, is did they wrap gold bars in metal as decoys?
or another metal, put bleach on it... if anything it cleaned it XD

thoughts?

-Andrew

 

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[itzyoboyandrew]

pics:

 

[ARC]

Need some pictures please... The more the better...
Along with sizes... weights... and whatever else along the lines of identifying marks.

Also... I general location where the item was found... IE... Woods... Beach... etc. IN what state/country etc.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

its .5inch x 2.5inch x 1.25inch, was found in the corner of our yard in a HUGE pile of clam shells. it weights 181 grams

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

WHHOOOOP THERE IT IS !!!
:P

so have any clue? XD

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

based on that what would you say it is, AARC

 

[bigfoot1]

dang thats heavy...time to have it tested I would say.good luck !!also looks more like ocean encrustation than rust.

 

[Ant]

It could be anything, may be an old cigarette lighter, is it magnetic, tumble it, or chip away some of that corrosion, it looks like trash junk metal.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

its lead

 

[ARC]

Hmmm... rusty lead ?

 

[DizzyDigger]

Try taking some pics with a better camera (not a cell phone).

 

[MakingMemories]

Gold doesnt rust. , They just found gold coins in the ocean from an old ship, it had no rust at all.

 

[MakingMemories]

Rust comes from oxygen mixing with iron. What this means is that only iron rusts, strictly speaking. Copper, silver and aluminium (among many others) tarnish. It usually - but not always - comes out to the same thing as iron rusting, so you end up with copper oxide and aluminium oxide. (Silver actually reacts with atmospheric hydrogen sulfide when it tarnishes.

Gold doesn't even do that. What's called tarnishing in gold is really just discoloration and isn't the result of gold reacting with oxygen in the environment. This is because gold is a pretty unreactive element - you need to start throwing a lot of energy at gold before it will start reacting with anything in the atmosphere. For example, while iron oxide can exist at room temperature, gold (III) oxide decomposes (turns back to gold and oxygen) at 160 degrees Celsius - and that's the most stable gold oxide we've found.

So what does react with gold? Mostly halogens. Halogens react with pretty much anything - fluorine is particularly nasty in this regard, but chlorine, bromine, iodine, astatine and ununseptium also react with other substances quite readily.

(Two things to mention with regards to that last sentence:

Astatine and ununseptium are radioactively unstable, which means that they're not likely to stick around long enough for you to really pull off chemical reactions.
This does not mean you have to worry about the fluoride in the water, the chlorine in the pool or the iodine in salt. What you're seeing there are either previously reacted elements - so that you're just ignoring part of the chemical name - or ions that aren't very reactive in and of themselves.)


Gold also reacts with acids. However, it doesn't react with oxygen, nitrogen, or really any of the gases present in the atmosphere. Which is why you won't see gold "rust." If we lived on a planet that stayed 170 degrees Celsius, then we might see gold "rust" - but we'd also die pretty soon after that.

Quoted from another site

 

[Crispin]

Just so people dont get confused. This is referring to pure gold. 14kt gold is a mix of metals and can oxidize. Ie. Turn black. Hence a redox pain may be a useful test for 14kt and lower.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

Better pics: Cant tell from pics, but on the bottom, i can make out either a: C or a G

 

[Ant]

Is it attracted to a magnet? It doesn't matter it is worthless junk, truly worthless, trash, that's the honest truth, spend your time and mind power elsewhere and mark this Solved.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

Is it attracted to a magnet? It doesn't matter it is worthless junk, truly worthless, trash, that's the honest truth, spend your time and mind power elsewhere and mark this Solved.

Yes i realized that, didnt have to say it harshly, im not marking it solved until i know for sure what it is, if its bothering you... go to another thread.

 

[itzyoboyandrew]

Found out what it is though..

Its tungsten... and yes that was gold on the outside of it.. its from someone trying to fake a gold bar, its got a similar weight to gold.. so they can easily fool people.. so in conclusion its a counterfeit gold bar XD

 

[Ant]

You asked was it a "Gold Bar or scrap junk..". I gave you the direct answer and you get bent out of shape, sorry. By the way this is the shape of a gold bar except this is smaller.

 

[Ant]

Oh an no they don't wrap tungsten in gold, councounterfeiters use lead to counterfeit gold likenesses. They use lead as the base metal for counterfeit gold. They use lots of tricks, drill a hole in a lead bar fill with gold and then gold plate or burnish the gold on to the lead bar, same con and bunko as salting or shot gunning a gold claim or mine.