Georgia Clay Pipe

[GaRebel1861]

Thanks for the suggestions on removing the unwanted white out on the pipe. I bought this pipe years ago from a reliable person who said that it was found near Columbus Georgia. I've had it since the mid 1980's and have been wanting to remove the white out so it could be displayed on either side. Any thoughts or comments are welcomed.

 

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[Wildcat1750]

Nice pipe! Looks like you were pretty successful getting the white out off.

 

[rock]

Thats a nice pipe. I have yet to find one not even a piece. Looks good.

 

[GaRebel1861]

Thats a nice pipe. I have yet to find one not even a piece. Looks good.

Thanks - I've only got two Indian pipes in my collection and I have been hunting since the late 70's.

 

[Little River Hunter]

Nice! How old do you think it is? 1600's? I've seen a clay Creek Indian pipe here in Oklahoma with an owl on the bowl, ca. 1830.

 

[GatorBoy]

You lucky dog. I'm still hoping for mine. An elbow like that would be awesome....now the one in your avatar ... holy cow!

 

[GaRebel1861]

Nice! How old do you think it is? 1600's? I've seen a clay Creek Indian pipe here in Oklahoma with an owl on the bowl, ca. 1830.

I'm not really sure. Would be nice to know what other artifacts were found in the same area. If anyone has an opinion of age please speak up - Also, feel free to post any pipes that you have.

 

[GaRebel1861]

You lucky dog. I'm still hoping for mine. An elbow like that would be awesome....now the one in your avatar ... holy cow!

Thanks & I hope that you get one as well. When you do, It will probably be like when I found mine - Did not even expect it and was just hoping and looking to bring back a nice point or two. Good luck.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Hey Reb,
I have several pipes in my shop. Most are pvc and a few are galvanized. You can see them in person anytime!

 

[GaRebel1861]

Hey Reb,
I have several pipes in my shop. Most are pvc and a few are galvanized. You can see them in person anytime!

When I come over to your shop again, I ain't going to want to see those pipes but want to "test drive" that car you restored. Can I still borrow it for a beach trip to Panama City in the spring? I'll leave the speeding citations in the glove box.

 

[Tnmountains]

They made those clay and crushed limestone or shell pipes for a long time. It looks good.

 

[NC field hunter]

GA, you know better than to run off and do as I say. With that out of the way, I have been thinking for you. I wander what citric acid diluted like crazy with water would do in the removal of the white out, and the preservation of the pipe? Read into that one, or just simple lemon juice diluted. I think it can be taken off, but will be tedious and several steps in the process. I have always loved chemistry, but have limited knowledge in the field. You may need a base to remove it. Arm n hammer backing soda would be where I started. A small BB size bead of arm n hammer tooth paste, ONLY on the white out (toothpaste is abrasive) may remove it. Just a few things to think about. Research them if they sound half way reasonable to you. Good luck!

 

[NC field hunter]

One more nibble of food for thought. Coca-cola at one time used their product in the degreasing of the motors in their delivery trucks. Just because something sounds relatively harmless doesn't mean any thing. That goes double for a sweet pipe that is hundreds or thousands of years old. As you can tell, I would hate myself if I were the cause of this piece of international treasure's destruction.

 

[GatorBoy]

Acetone won't hurt it. It's commonly used as part of a mixture to preserve artifacts. I use it alot. So do museums.

 

[GatorBoy]

This piece took a bath in it mixed with duco cement as a readily available replacment for butvar. it's a Spanish olive jar rim from the early 16 hundreds. It's Made Entirely of pottery. Try putting white out on a pottery Chard and test it out.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Good looking Pipe Rebel. I think I would have left the white out on it if it were mine. You not only took the history off of it, you may have damaged the patina.

And since you said it was okay, here are some of my Pipes. The 4 in the 2nd pic amd all the pieces are personal finds. The Elbow on the far left and the small one on the far right in the 1st pic aren't. I got the Elbow from a farmer and it's now in Steve Baumans collection (larson1951) and the small one was given to me by the finder. The last one is a Phallic Effigy Pipe.

 

[rock]

I wouldnt want to put my mouth on that last one.

 

[GaRebel1861]

Good looking Pipe Rebel. I think I would have left the white out on it if it were mine. You not only took the history off of it, you may have damaged the patina.

And since you said it was okay, here are some of my Pipes. The 4 in the 2nd pic amd all the pieces are personal finds. The Elbow on the far left and the small one on the far right in the 1st pic aren't. I got the Elbow from a farmer and it's now in Steve Baumans collection (larson1951) and the small one was given to me by the finder. The last one is a Phallic Effigy Pipe.

That's a very nice pipe collection! The patina on the pipe that I took off the white out did not appear to be damaged if you have the item in your hand. Picture may make it look that way. I took the "before" picture at night inside and the "after" picture in the daylight. That may be the reason for the pipe looking different - Also, acetone was only applied to the white out area.

 

[timekiller]

I like them pipes folks Very Cool.Me & Dad have been lucky to be in a place to find pipes.I'll post some of the different types we have found.I recently wrote to a guy on the web some of you may know him.At any point he was very nice in repling back to me on some pipes we've found here on the coast.This was his response to me................................& his web site Jim Maus Artifacts - Galleries - Pipes

Pete,

As for your pipes - yes they are certainly ceramic. Of course the pipes could slightly pre-date the bow and arrow. It is very difficult to date artifacts from photos. I can certainly say they most likely pre-European intrusion unless you have found trade goods with them. They appear to be mid to late Woodland meaning maybe as early as 500 BC and as late as AD 1,000. Where were they found? There is a pretty good book on pottery of the NC coast if you do not have it. It is WOODLAND POTTERS AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL CERAMICS OF THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST by Joseph Herbert. It covers pottery vessels but will apply also to ceramic pipes. You can get a copy from Hamilton Books at HamiltonBooks.com at a much reduced price of about $7 or $8 + postage (regular price about $35) and it is worth having in your library.

Congratulations on finding some nice smoking pipes and again, my condolences on your loss.

Jim

 

[timekiller]

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