Genuine CW Musket?

[Coilcrazy2]

Ill start off by admitting this was a yardsale find, not a metal detecting find. This being said, im not sure if "What is it" is the right place to post this but I figured I would get my help here.
I recently got this Musket wall-hanger at a yardsale for a VERY good price and assumed it was a reproduction. After closer examination I could see that the metal on the gun was pitted and showed signs of age. Also, on the side plate I noticed the word Manton and 1862.(hopefully this will show in the pics). The barrel of the gun was replaced with wood so obviously this cannot be used for anything but a wall hanger today. I was just wondering if there is a chance that the gun (minus the barrel) is indeed a CW era gun. Thanks for the info!
CC

 

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[Mud Hut]

Perhaps you have seen this? College Hill Arsenal :: Previously Sold Items :: 1862 Dated "Manton" M-1861 Rifle Musket

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Excellent yard sale find!

 

[Coilcrazy2]

Perhaps you have seen this? College Hill Arsenal*::*Previously Sold Items*::*1862 Dated "Manton" M-1861 Rifle Musket

Wow lots of info on the gun there! thanks for the link. Hopefully this one is genuine like that

 

[BosnMate]

Sure looks like a very badly mistreated genuine rifle musket to me. I have a couple of times received an unasked for catalog for knives etc. that has many guns just like this one for sale
for a fairly reasonable price. There was a large warehouse like in Thailand or someplace close by, and they discovered lots of old guns and parts in pretty bad condition. Yours looks like
it might have come from there. Sorry, I didn't save the catalog, and didn't pay much attention at the time.

 

[BosnMate]

I did a little research, and the catalog is from Atlanta Cutlery, and the warehouse was in Nepal. Here's a link. Antique Militaria Knives, Guns & Rifles
Far as I'm concerned they are asking way to much money for what you would be getting.

 

[l.cutler]

Bannerman's was a surplus arms dealer in the latter half of the 19th century up through the first half or so of the 20th. They bought up tons of surplus Civil War arms and parts. The cadet or "quaker" musket was made up from genuine muskets or parts of muskets with wooden barrels added, they were made to be sold to various "boys brigades" and military type academies for boys which were quite common at the time.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Here's another:

Muskets, Model 1861, Manton

It's definitely seen better days but does appear to be a Manton M-1861 (Springfield pattern).

The originals didn't cost much after the war, but condition is everything. Makes a great wall hanger, though.

 

[Coilcrazy2]

Here's another:

Muskets, Model 1861, Manton

It's definitely seen better days but does appear to be a Manton M-1861 (Springfield pattern).

The originals didn't cost much after the war, but condition is everything. Makes a great wall hanger, though.

Awesome Info, Thank you! It will look nice on my mantle. I guess its probably worth the $15 I spent on it

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Awesome Info, Thank you! It will look nice on my mantle. I guess its probably worth the $15 I spent on it

Some folks might consider this a mortal sin ... but for the $15 you spent on it I'd consider getting it cleaned up.
At least that way it would look nice on your fireplace mantle or over a doorway.
Dave

 

[DCMatt]

I did a little research, and the catalog is from Atlanta Cutlery, and the warehouse was in Nepal. Here's a link. Antique Militaria Knives, Guns & Rifles
Far as I'm concerned they are asking way to much money for what you would be getting.

Sorry for hijacking this thread but I wanted to comment on Bosnmate's post:

I bought an untouched East India Company Pattern F musket (made in 1849) from the Nepal Royal Armory cache (at IMA-USA.com). The condition was remarkable though it did require about 20 hours of restoration. Turned into a nice looking piece and is fully functional. Not sure I'll ever put a projectile down the barrel but it shoots blanks for my reenacting impression.

Lots of history on these old muskets. Mine has Nagari markings on it. It was presumably used by Sepoy rebels in the failed 1857 India war for independence from England. After their defeat the Sepoys fled into Nepal where they were disarmed by the Gurkhas and the weapons stored in the Royal Armory for the next 150+ years.

DCMatt