Garret Ace 250 question?

[flyinryan2]

I've had my ace 250 since july, and ive noticed somtimes ill get a real good penny/dime tone reads 4-6" down. so i dig it and nothing . i'll swing in all directions and now it reads nothing, even turning to all metal, nothing . after 10-20 mins. searching for this mystery signal i give up and fill in the hole . recheck it and bing bing bing great signal again ? why is it not picking up the target when the hole is dug?

 

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Flyinryan2,

Sorry to here that.but that ace 2 fiddy is famous for that. old man Garret should have to use his own equipment. but if you don't turn the thing down too two that's going to happen.I feel for Yea.sell it and go get a White's I guaranty it will be better than that thing.


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[Swartzie]

Did you scan the dirt you dug out of the hole? Could be something small near the surface (1-2") like a piece of can-slaw. The 250 will give you the depth of a quarter size object. If the target is smaller then it will be more shallow than what the detector is telling you. If it is bigger then it will be deeper. Rolled can-slaw can signal in the penny/dime range. The 250 is a good machine for the price.

-Swartzie

 

[Beans]

Mine does the same, at first I would dig and dig and probe and pin point etc to find nothing. I have learned for me to just move on. It happened twice yesterday.

 

[TerryC]

If you check the fill dirt, handful by handful, you will find the target. No other explaination. TTC

 

[flyinryan2]

If you check the fill dirt, handful by handful, you will find the target. No other explaination. TTC

Mine does the same, at first I would dig and dig and probe and pin point etc to find nothing. I have learned for me to just move on. It happened twice yesterday.

Did you scan the dirt you dug out of the hole? Could be something small near the surface (1-2") like a piece of can-slaw. The 250 will give you the depth of a quarter size object. If the target is smaller then it will be more shallow than what the detector is telling you. If it is bigger then it will be deeper. Rolled can-slaw can signal in the penny/dime range. The 250 is a good machine for the price.
-Swartzie

Thank you for the responses, i just recently got a pin pointer and it seems to help find these mystery signals sometimes, which seem to end up being a very tiny rusted nail. I guess no machine is perfect and i do really like the 250 its very easy to use and ive found some nice things with it, i just get frustrated when i spend so much time trying to find nothing.

 

[relichunters]

The ACE 250 is notorious for false signals. But also it could just be that the target was deep and it could barely touch it. Your detection grows to a pointed cone as it goes down.

 

[matt092079]

From what I've noticed with those signals is if you have your discrimination set to no iron targets and the sensitivity a little high it will come in as a high tone at first and then show up as iron. Sometimes you can swing over a target a couple times, maybe a little slower and the iron target will show up as a dime or even higher. I can almost tell that it's going to be a square nail or some type of iron target now. The ace will find those good targets, but the discrimination on the machine is just awful. I realize with a lot of machines you will dig trash, but I think the ace is so bad at picking apart trash and treasure. Not to mention it has no vdi number read out so you can never "learn" a number, you just have the bars at the top which isn't helpful at all when almost every single piece of can, beer cap or anything the size of a quarter or bigger shows up as dime/quarter/50 cents.

 

[relicminer]

OK, this is what I have found. If the machine sounds I promise there is something there, mine is not the absolute best with discrimantion. It will not always sound on the right symbol, but THERE IS SOMETHING THERE, that I promise you... today mine was dinging a bouncy silver signal, I would dig and find a small piece of Iron, way off. This doesn't happen all the time, mostly when the soil is wet... I use a Pro Pointer as well and check my dirt and hole walls very well, I have basically learned not to give up on a hole until I find something, then the hole will be silent, no false signal, just incorrect ones.... Well, I hope this helps its only what I have noticed with my ACE 250!!!!

PS- turning the sensitivity down helps alot, especially in wet soil!!

 

[matt092079]

Yeah, I turn the sensitivity WAY down when hunting a park or tot-lot. But in the fields hunting for relics I have it up higher to get a possible deeper signal. I dig a lot of nails, but you gotta dig to find out!

 

[flyinryan2]

thanks to everybody for all the help

 

[DanRiverMan]

Sometimes the target maybe a little bit off from your pin pointing {Like an inch or so in the side of the hole} and you flip the plug over on it and then cant find it in the hole..

You can also "FLICK" a small target out of the hole by accident.. I have flicked targets out several feet away before..

There could be MANY reasonable reasons for a dissapearing target..

Ive had coins "SIT" on the back of my digger and drive me nuts looking for what I know was a good target..

Scott

 

[flyinryan2]

Sometimes the target maybe a little bit off from your pin pointing {Like an inch or so in the side of the hole} and you flip the plug over on it and then cant find it in the hole..
Scott

I've had this happen a few times, so i have started moving the plug away from the hole when this happens, sometimes the target is a few more inches this way or that way and end up finding it, but sometimes it just disappears when i dig the hole. Thanks for the post

 

[kayden]

I've had my ace 250 since july, and ive noticed somtimes ill get a real good penny/dime tone reads 4-6" down. so i dig it and nothing . i'll swing in all directions and now it reads nothing, even turning to all metal, nothing . after 10-20 mins. searching for this mystery signal i give up and fill in the hole . recheck it and bing bing bing great signal again ? why is it not picking up the target when the hole is dug?

You need a pinpointer sir!

 

[flyinryan2]

You need a pinpointer sir!

I just recently got one and it does seem to help find the target even if the detector reads no signal, but it seems to always turn up a nail.

 

[kayden]

You need a pinpointer sir!

I just recently got one and it does seem to help find the target even if the detector reads no signal, but it seems to always turn up a nail.

Get used to it because you will find many...& by the way thats a good little detector dont give up on it!

 

[flyinryan2]

You need a pinpointer sir!

I just recently got one and it does seem to help find the target even if the detector reads no signal, but it seems to always turn up a nail.

Get used to it because you will find many...& by the way thats a good little detector dont give up on it!

Oh, I'm not it really is a good detector for the money.