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[Matteo La Boccia]

Someone know these objects?? Thanks.

 

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[SgtSki in MI]

The 1st picture is of a metal holder for a Social Security Card, but the card has long since rotted away. In the 2nd picture it is difficult to tell what the top item is but the bottom item is a .45 caliber pistol cleaning rod.

hh,
SgtSki

 

[Matteo La Boccia]

The 1st picture is of a metal holder for a Social Security Card, but the card has long since rotted away. In the 2nd picture it is difficult to tell what the top item is but the bottom item is a .45 caliber pistol cleaning rod.

hh,
SgtSki

Thanks. I not know that is Social Security Card. Do you can explain? I 'm italian. Do you have some photo of .45 caliber pistol cleaning set The other object is a part of german MG42 (machine gun). Thanks!!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The 1st picture is of a metal holder for a Social Security Card, but the card has long since rotted away. In the 2nd picture it is difficult to tell what the top item is but the bottom item is a .45 caliber pistol cleaning rod.

hh,
SgtSki

Thanks. I not know that is Social Security Card. Do you can explain? I 'm italian. Do you have some photo of .45 caliber pistol cleaning set The other object is a part of german MG42 (machine gun). Thanks!!!

SgtSki is correct. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_(United_States)
http://cgi.ebay.com/M1911-45-CLEANI...oryZ4721QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Does the end attachment have a slot? If not, the bristles of the brush may have rotted away

 

[ballbuster]

Sorry for hijacking the thread but I have a question about the social security card holder. Were these issued by the military? One other note I find interesting. I still have my original s.s. card and on the very bottom is a statement. "For Social Security and tax purposes-NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION. Its amazing how it has became the #1 personal identifier in this country.

Jim

 

[dg39]

Sorry for hijacking the thread but I have a question about the social security card holder. Were these issued by the military? One other note I find interesting. I still have my original s.s. card and on the very bottom is a statement. "For Social Security and tax purposes-NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION. Its amazing how it has became the #1 personal identifier in this country.

Jim

The S.S. frame was a commericial item. As for your last statement, I agree.
DG

 

[Mackaydon]

Matteo:
At the base of the Soc. Sec. frame is listed the "Ferrell Company" . Can you identify the initials in front of the word Ferrell?
At the bottom right is a Patent (applied for??) number: I can guess is says D10979. Is there a 6th number?
Don....

 

[Matteo La Boccia]

Matteo:
At the base of the Soc. Sec. frame is listed the "Ferrell Company" . Can you identify the initials in front of the word Ferrell?
At the bottom right is a Patent (applied for??) number: I can guess is says D10979. Is there a 6th number?
Don....

The words are: E H FERREE COMPANY PATENT NO. D10979 (1 ). What is Social
Security Act I live in Italy. Thanks.

 

[ivan salis]

its a US GOVT program its supposed to be to assist the poor old aged folks with a bit of money each month and for disabled folks that are crippled and can not work -- the US govt takes money from you each paycheck --- then when you apply for the benefit ---they wind up making you wait two years ,hoping you die before getting the money and benefits you should have gotten all along (normally these days you have to hire a lawyer to fight for you to get your "rights" under the program -- and he gets $5300 of your back owed money if you win) ---thats whay socail security is--- a big con game --- the socail security number ### - ## - ### is a special number issued to only one person --(you) and was at first to only be used to track weither you were allowed benefits -- but it has turn into the number by which your "whole life" is tracked here in america ---thus you could find out whos "number" it was that you found --- by back tracking the number---if the paper card was still there --its long gone however.

some folks had metal holder that held the paper socail security card with their name and socail security number on it --since the paper cards wore out or tore up often --- folks in WW2 had a metal "card" holder that their card fit into -- that left their name and number visible but protected the card from damage -- later on lots of folks got metal "plate" type cards made with their name and number stamped or etched on them rather than carry the papper cards the GOVT issued -- my dad had one made out of aluminum that I remember seeing long ago ---- Ivan

 

[PBK]

It's a design ("D") patent number. The complete number is D109791.

Here's a link to the patent drawings:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=3lMCAAAAEBAJ&pg=PP1&dq=D109791&output=html


E. H. Ferree was a wallet manufacturer in Rockport, NY.

There's an interesting story about Ferree and Social Security cards. You'll find it online at:

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/misused.html

 

[roswellborn]

Matteo,
Social Security is sort of a retirement plan, set up during the Depression years (1930s). The number is supposed to be used ONLY for this plan, but since just about everyone has a Social Security number now - you can't get a job without it - many businesses use it as an identification number. My state (Missouri) even used it as a Driver's License number for several years! (idiots)

A few years after the plan went into effect, it was modified (through Congress, I think) to include disability benefits - and dependent benefits too, I believe (husband dies, wife can receive his retirement benefits, etc).

It is extremely difficult to get the disability benefits, and that's usually when a lawyer comes into the picture. If the lawyer is ultimately successful, the person receives a "lump sum" (the total of what they should have been getting all along, up to that point). Generally, a lawyer will receive about 25% of the total lump sum payment as his fee. The lawyer gets nothing if he is ultimately UNsuccessful in proving the case.

Social Security is a sensitive issue with a lot of people, and is a major headache for politicians.

Anyway. That holder thing of yours was something that people could buy to protect their Social Security card from wear. Not so effective in the earth, though

hope that helps,
Nan

 

[Angelo]

IVAN! Nothing like making a retired guy feel even worse.

its a US GOVT program its supposed to be to assist the poor old aged folks

Just retired, and I don't look at the program as "to assist". They are only giving me back a small portion of what I thought was a loan to them from me.

Tony

By the way, NICE ID PBK. You old ^&*()_W&#(

MATTEO: IT'S KIND OF LIKE THIS: (INPS - Istituto Nazionale della Previdenza Sociale

 

[Matteo La Boccia]

THANKS TO ALLA FOR PRECIOUS INFORMATIONS YOU ARE GIVING ME!!!!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

THANKS TO ALLA FOR PRECIOUS INFORMATIONS YOU ARE GIVING ME!!!!!

You are welcome. And welcome to TreasureNet.

Do not thank Alla. Just thank all.

 

[ivan salis]

I think he means all ya --- as in all you --- allah is with a "h" something a muslim would not mistake.

its to insure that you at least have some income when you are normally too old to gainfully work or are disabiled and thus unable to work --

yes what we "loaned" the US govt over the years will not be forth coming to in return to many of us. ---

sorry if the truth hurts but thats the way it is like it or not -- Ivan

 

[Blackroch]

This is the posting from APR. of 2007. I'm just curious as to where it was found. Social security was a tax that was set up to take care of people who retired and those who just needed help. Not the best plan .

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

This is the posting from APR. of 2007. I'm just curious as to where it was found. .

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