Fox Nail - UPDATED

[CRUSADER]

If anyone remembers I post one of these a while ago but it had no writing on it. I thought the fox looked abit like a kangaroo at first

This one I am pretty sure went into the end of a hunts whip.

Its reads:

*ROUND WHIP MAKER HOLBURN*

My other half who rides horses has never heard of a 'Round' Whip??

Also I can find any info on a Whip Maker in Holburn?

Can anyone help?

It is likely to be in the date range of 1900-1930.

 

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[Gypsy Heart]

Re: Fox Nail

Griffith Tho. & Char. Whip makers, 322, High Holborn

A.W. Gamage Ltd, Holborn, London

 

[Peerless67]

Re: Fox Nail

I would not be to quick to date it as late as that crusader. there are Chandlers and whip makers listed in Holburn in the 1794 directory.
dont know to much about that stuff so here is the link.

http://www.londonancestor.com/kents/kents-r.htm

 

[Montana Jim]

Re: Fox Nail

Agreed... if in fact Gypsy is correct - it's dated back to the late 1700s.

I found this cool read; Court proceedings from the Old Bailey, 3rd April, 1799. http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/html_sessions/T17990403.html

Scroll down to "JAMES BENINGFIELD, theft : simple grand larceny."

"JAMES BENINGFIELD was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 4th of January, ten horse-whips, value 30s. a horse-whip, with a base metal hook, plated with silver, value 5s. another horse-whip, value 3s. eighty-nine other horsewhips, value 15l. three whip handles, with iron hooks, value 9s..."

"CHARLES GRIFFITHS sworn. - Examined by Mr. Gurney. I am a whip manufacturer, in partnership with my brother, Thomas Griffiths , No. 322, High Holborn. In the beginning... "

Q. Are any of them in the same state in which they came out of your manufactory? - A. Yes, several of them, (points them out); we never sell whips of this sort without a nail drove in the end of the handle, or very seldom.

 

[Ralphw]

Re: Fox Nail

now that is a cool find.....

 

[pgill]

Re: Fox Nail

Wow Crusader, this is great.... what a great history, now you can even print out these little articles to go with the find.

God bless
Peter

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Fox Nail

One problem.

It definately says

Holburn NOT Holborn

 

[Montana Jim]

Re: Fox Nail

One problem.

It definately says

Holburn NOT Holborn

Crap...

 

[Ralphw]

spellings do sometimes morph over the years.... maybe thats what happened?

 

[CRUSADER]

closeup

 

[CRUSADER]

spellings do sometimes morph over the years.... maybe thats what happened?

Nope

 

[Ralphw]

spellings do sometimes morph over the years.... maybe thats what happened?

Nope

yeah , that wouldn't apply here,,,


too bad

 

[CRUSADER]

spellings do sometimes morph over the years.... maybe thats what happened?

Sure would not be the first typo in history, eh?

Now that is possible.

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Seems like there are tons of references to Holborn London as Holburn......the farther back you go the more use of Holburn was common ........here is a pic of how it would fit on handle.....

 

[CRUSADER]

Seems like there are tons of references to Holborn London as Holburn......the farther back you go the more use of Holburn was common ........

Good research, never knew that

 

[_lee_]

fox nail..

Good research, never knew that

I know this is an old thread but i found one of these exactly the same on sunday.. i'll try to get a picture up .