FOUND TODAY MEDIEVAL GOLD COIN

[vercingetorix]

I have found an amazing gold coin today , a GOLD TREMISSIS of Recceswinth struck in TOLEDE in the 7th centurie .

I've tried to do some researchs on the internet about this type of coinage but DIDN'T MANAGE TO GET ANY FURTHER INFORMATION ...

All I know so far is that coin is extremely rare , only a few ones known and listed ...or so I've been told . the coin's 20mm in diameter

Obverse : +RECCESVONOVS RX

Reverse : +TOLETOPIVS

If you have any idea or more details PLEASE LET ME KNOW !!!

Laurent ( France )

 

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[birdman]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazing.

 

[jeff of pa]

I second That !

WOW !

 

[Chagy]

I will agree with everyone, amazing.........

Nice job!!!!!!


Chagy.........

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Cool Find Congrats! These sites might help.
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/214/21401m/presveis/Pages/museum/23/p2302_3.html

Soon after, both faces of Visigoth tremisses started to bear a facing bust instead of one in profile. The cross on steps motif was put again in use in the second half of the 7th cent. AD by several Visigoth kings (Recceswinth, Wamba, Erwig, Egica).



http://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/gaddis/HST354/Mar27/Default.htm Photo of coins in tomb of King Recceswinth



A golden bracelet from 6th century Constantinople is decorated with pearls, sapphires and green chalcedony. A magnificent 7th century Constantinople necklace is so detailed, so extravagant and so meticulously worked that it rivals even the most elaborate designs of today. The necklace is composed of eleven hinged plaques of gold openwork, decorated with emeralds, aquamarines and pearls. A magnificent crown from the Guarrazar Treasure, found near Toledo in Spain, also dating from the 7th century, was presented by King Recceswinth, a Visigothic ruler. The crown combines sapphires, emeralds and pearls set in decoratively pierced gold which form pendants. The pendants spell out "RECCESVINTUS REX OFFERET."

 

[dg39]

I am thinking big Euro Dollars. WOW!! Again!

 

[vercingetorix]

Thanks for the great info gypsy. But don't see anything that looks like my tremissis . It seems that "Recceswinth" was king of Spain during a very short time ( 653 - 672 ) and therefore very few coins have been recovered so far .

I'm so happy Its my first medieval gold coin and moreover in that condition one can hardly dream for more ...

If anyone has the slightest info on my coin THAT WOULD BE GREAT ...

Thanks everyone

Laurent

 

[lucky1777]

You are right on the mint dates for this coin. A auction estimate for a coin like this is between 2000.00 and 2800.00 according to some research I have done on this. As for knowing how many exist, I am not sure you can accurately find this.

 

[rck_1]

Check this out:

www.elsen.be/docs/vp85/gb85printoptimized.pdf

Item 582 looks to be an exact of your coin. Scroll down the doc for a pic

 

[DJ_Quinn]

That's early midieval and in great shape! Where did you find it, if you don't mind my asking? It must have been protected somewhere, as even normal soil erosion would dammage the detail much more than that coin seems to show.

 

[vercingetorix]

Thanks everyone for the great infos

DJ_Quinn I found it at the top of a hill just a few inches deep . I think the same as you although I haven't found other ones so far but I go back to the site tomorrow with a large coil and a PI detector . I'm gonna dig the first few inches with my shovel to go deeper too . Maybe I'm wrong and there's nothing left but just imagine if I find another gold coin like this

I'll keep you up to date
Laurent

 

[trk5capt]

VER, Great Find, Just Great, Don't Have A Clue, But Know You, Have Found An Interesting & Valuable Find, Congrats. trk5capt...

 

[tinpan]

awsome find.very old, very rare and very gold.what more could you ask for.this sort of find i dream about.hope you find more

tinpan

 

[Angelo]

This may help.

Go to: coinarchives.com and under ancient coins search toleto pivs

You will see similarities on the letttering. There is also some good info on other sites for toleto pivs or toleto pius

The RX may be REX. So also do a search on the net under rex coins. Some info there also.

Good luck, and I will keep trying also.

Tony (angelos's grandpa)

 

[Angelo]

Got a good pic.

Sold at auction for $1,452.00

NICE FIND!! SHOULD BUY YOU A GOOD BOTTLE OF WINE!

It's item 17 on coinarchives.com click the left info on that item and it will give you the information. It's in Spanish. Let me know if you need help in translating.

Shrove Tuesday! Mardi Gras! Fat Tuesday! Poisson d'Avril!!!! HAPPY EASTER!!

Tony (angelos grandpa)

 

[vercingetorix]

Thanks very much Angelo

This coin is not exactly the same as mine though . If you take a close look on my coin on the reverse a few details differ for instance the small dot just below the cross ( above the "T" of toleTo ) and also there are 4 steps below the cross ... which makes me think my coin is even rarer but that's just a guess ...

Thanks for helping out !
Laurent

 

[JDSCOIN]

Hello Laurent,

I know that it has been some time since anyone has posted to this topic, but I find it interesting. This particular type of coin is not my specialty, but I thought that a cool head here might be welcomed.

First of all, please do not let what I say be a 'downer'. I think that everyone should consider first and foremost whether or not what they find is indeed genuine. And then, go from there. I know that it can be exciting to find something that you think may be extremely rare and that it does happen. That is good. But most of the time, that simply is not the case. And that is just reality.

Now, I am not saying that what you found is not genuine, I don't know that. What I am saying is that in terms of such coins as these, the denomination may play a part in determining rarity and/or value. You said that you thought it was a Tremissis, but that it is 20mm in diameter. That size would indicate that it may not be a Tremissis, but a Solidus, if genuine.

Let me say that in dealing with other coins (generally older than the one you found), the denomination is key in both attributing and determining value or rarity. It may well be that that particular ruler did not strike many coins in the denomination of a Tremissis; but he may have struck many of them as Solidii. I have seen coins similar to yours selling for between $400.00 and $600.00 U.S.

I do hope that yours IS indeed genuine and rare. But I wanted to insert a bit of what I know about it here as well, just in case. Especially since I saw no one else doing likewise.

Best regards.

JDSCOIN

 

[BuckleBoy]

I really think this should be moved to the "best finds" thread, and the pic posted on the "recent treasures" bar up above. Fantastic find!!!

Buckleboy

 

[dugupfinds]

Just send you a PM to identify it.

 

[Nashoba]

awsome find.very old, very rare and very gold.what more could you ask for.this sort of find i dream about.hope you find more

tinpan

Ya said it all tinpan!
~Nash~