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[ringmaster]

found this buckle today help 2.75x1.75 American Military Insignia 1800-1851

Author: J. Duncan Campbell WAIST-BELT PLATE, C. 1836

USNM 60414-M (S-K 300). Figure 190.

Figure 190

Rather unusual in construction, this small silver-on-copper rectangular plate was struck in thin metal. Two broad tongues, for attachment to a belt, are inserted in the rear; and the reverse is filled with lead to imbed the fasteners. The eagle design is very similar to the one prescribed for the caps of the Regular Establishment in 1821, although somewhat reduced in size. The general lack of finish and polish in construction indicates that the specimen was probably the product of an inexperienced and small-scale manufacturer.

 

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[HutSiteDigger]

can you post a picture of the back. Thanks!

 

[ringmaster]

much rust

 

[vpnavy]

WOW - real nice find ringmaster.

 

[recondigger]

Kuger or CC hunter might have an idea of what it is. I don't think it's a buckle I looks like it was attached to something maybe a box or chest? I could be wrong

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[CC Hunter]

Interesting Item!

At the moment, I not certain if this is in fact a buckle, or rather something else used in another capacity. The face appears to be thin rolled brass, die stamped, with a lead solder filled back, along with a sheet iron portion affixed.

ringmaster,

Please provide height and width measurements, as these would be quite helpful in assessing this artifact.

The die stamped eagle here is very similar in shape and design to a ca. 1820's-1840's eagle hat insignia.

CC Hunter

 

[goldnrelics]

I had someone show me a picture of the exact same one and he said it was a buckle, but i'm not sure. but thats a mighty nice find, great job

 

[duggap]

The eagle appears like the early US Militia plates, but the back definitely throws me a curve. I, too, wonder if it is in fact a buckle. Heck of a nice find what ever it turns out to be.

 

[CC Hunter]

This find being a buckle item is a distinct possibility, although I cannot recall ever seeing one of this exact design. In clarification, the eagle hat insignia comparison was merely pointing out similarities in shape and detail of the eagle design. I'm rather certain this item is not a hat insignia device.

CC Hunter

 

[ringmaster]

1.75x2.75 thanks

 

[ringmaster]

Thanks for the info

 

[ringmaster]

Thanks for the info

 

[HutSiteDigger]

There is a similar plate listed in "Plates & Buckles" by Kerksis.. US Militia 1840's Sword Belt Plate. Page 205...

 

[ringmaster]

Thanks solved it American Military Insignia 1800-1851

Author: J. Duncan Campbell WAIST-BELT PLATE, C. 1836

USNM 60414-M (S-K 300). Figure 190.

Figure 190

Rather unusual in construction, this small silver-on-copper rectangular plate was struck in thin metal. Two broad tongues, for attachment to a belt, are inserted in the rear; and the reverse is filled with lead to imbed the fasteners. The eagle design is very similar to the one prescribed for the caps of the Regular Establishment in 1821, although somewhat reduced in size. The general lack of finish and polish in construction indicates that the specimen was probably the product of an inexperienced and small-scale manufacturer.