Found on one of my digs. Could that be true??

[Rean.c]

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[villagenut]

not true. Looks like an applied lip and no pontil scar. Blown in mold with applied lip was common in 1880 time period. There is probably a seam that runs up the sides of the bottle and fades out half way up the neck but can't tell by the photo. It is always fun to dig bottles though, even if they are young ones. If it were 1691 it wouldn't have a date embossed on the base, although some onion type have had dates on their seals but they were entirely hand blown.

 

[HAPPYCAMPER]

Looks like what is called a "whiskey flask" bottle...not sure real old,meaning dont think as what looks like date on bottom.

 

[bradyboy]

Putting aside the negative comments, its a nice looking bottle
I don't see a seam
Brady

 

[Peyton Manning]

you're holding it upside down it's not 1691 it's hmmm

 

[SkaBa]

Sure it's not 69 inside of brackets?

 

[Rean.c]

Nope it's not brackets and there doesn't seem to be a seam, here's another picture. There's a lot of plant material inside.

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[FreeBirdTim]

I found this info online:

Numbers also serve other purposes, depending on the exact container and/or company being discussed. Some numbers are year/date codes. Some numbers (for instance, 3- or 4-digit numbers on the base of many British bottles) are catalog, inventory, style or design numbers assigned to a particular bottle shape. Those numbers would serve to identify a particular bottle style, such as in communications/orders between the glass manufacturer and their customers …….that is, the companies who ordered the bottles to package their products.

Numbers on the bottom of glass bottles

 

[SkaBa]

Sure looks like a seam in your last pic.

 

[scrappy84]

Awesome

 

[villagenut]

Having a seam does not make it a bad bottle, Rean. It just helps to differentiate between 17th century and 19th century. It is a nice bottle and it is old and worthy of display in any collection.Most bottles that diggers pull up from privys and elsewhere have seams as well....so I wouldn't be disappointed with it. Nice one.

 

[CoilyGirl]

I still like it and it looks like a thick glass which is usually a good sign. Is it true bottle people that if the seam stops at the shoulder of the bottle and doesn't go through the neck it could stil at least be a 1920's bottle or is that just a myth?

 

[villagenut]

I still like it and it looks like a thick glass which is usually a good sign. Is it true bottle people that if the seam stops at the shoulder of the bottle and doesn't go through the neck it could stil at least be a 1920's bottle or is that just a myth?

Typically if the seam stops short of the neck, then you should see the hand tooling of the neck and lip or an applied lip.This practice changed to a one piece mold about 1903, and bottles after that had their seam go completely up the neck and even included the lip(all one piece). So a bottle with a seam like you describe would indicate a bottle from 1860-1900 depending on how high the seam goes and other factors as well. I have however found a bottle once that was from a local pharmacy that I know was established about 1912, but the bottle had a seam line indicating an older bottle(Three quarters way up the neck).So the older method of bottle making with the freehand neck and lip(BIM-blown in mold) must have phased out slowly rather than abruptly in 1903 when the ABM (automatic bottle machine)method took hold. Hope that helped, here is a good easy to follow link for any who is interested.

Antique Bottle Mold Marks

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

I'll drink to that !!

 

[masterjedi]

Its from the 1880's.... great find!

 

[Rean.c]

I still like it and it looks like a thick glass which is usually a good sign. Is it true bottle people that if the seam stops at the shoulder of the bottle and doesn't go through the neck it could stil at least be a 1920's bottle or is that just a myth?

Yea the glass is very thick in places and has little bubbles here and there, looks like a cool bottle


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[masterjedi]

I still like it and it looks like a thick glass which is usually a good sign. Is it true bottle people that if the seam stops at the shoulder of the bottle and doesn't go through the neck it could stil at least be a 1920's bottle or is that just a myth?

Coilygirl (great name)...

Most all bottles from 1865 on were blown in a mold and have mold seams. If the seem on the neck does not go through the lip, but just part way up the neck, it is pre 1900. If the seem goes through the lip it is post 1900. Most all bottles after 1900 are machine made and not blown in a mold...

This bottle is cool and is called a "coffin" whiskey bottle. It originally had a paper label on it...

 

[coinman123]

Circa 1880-1900 liquor flask, the number on the bottom is a mold number, each mold has a number when a mold wears out a new one with a different number is used. It is blown in mold instead of completely machine made so it is an older bottle. That style of flask is called a "coffin", popular from the time above I mentioned. Still a nice old bottle, it would look great cleaned up on a shelf.

As you can see there is quite a difference between your bottle and a 1600's bottle, clear glass was not even invented until the 1880's.

Coinman123,

 

[masterjedi]

Everything there is correct except clear glass was many years before that. I have clear glass whittled mold bottles that are embossed with pontil marks that were made pre 1865...

 

[coinman123]

Everything there is correct except clear glass was many years before that. I have clear glass whittled mold bottles that are embossed with pontil marks that were made pre 1865...

Thanks for correcting me, I had no idea that they had clear glass in the mid-1800's, I thought it was much later. I forgot about the early eagle flasks that are made out of white glass.

Thanks!