Found not sure if it's real or not help me identify please

[LadyBall]

Not to sure if it's real hope it is fingers crossed I don't know how to tell entirely a real rose cut diamond from a fake

 

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[jewelerguy]

here's one of several ways to test your stone at home -
A real diamond will refract light—this is what gives it sparkle and brilliance. To test your stone's reactivity, take a piece of paper and draw a small black dot or a line on it. Place the diamond over the dot or line and see if you can see the dot through the stone. If the diamond is real, then you won't be able to see it as the image is refracted. You can also conduct a similar test using a newspaper. Place the diamond flat-side down and if you can see the black type through the stone then it's probably fake. On the other hand, a real diamond will refract the image and so you will not see anything through the stone if it's the real thing.

 

[brianc053]

Many jewelers have diamond testers, a device that "....detects heat rate transfer through the stone..." (I googled "how does a diamond tester work?"). A jeweler may be willing to test your stone for free; my local jeweler did this for me when I found a broach with stones in it while metal detecting (stones were fake).

Can you provide a bit more context for the stone? What I mean is: you included pictures of the stone with a bunch of other stuff (other uncut stones?) and I wasn't sure what that was meant to indicate.

I hope your stone is real. But - I feel like the stone looks scratched in some of the pictures, and isn't it true that real diamonds don't scratch because they're so hard?

Good luck.

 

[opalboy]

Too much abrasion to be a diamond. Unless it was stored with a lot of other diamonds.

 

[river roamer]

 

[Grizz12]

here's one of several ways to test your stone at home -
A real diamond will refract light—this is what gives it sparkle and brilliance. To test your stone's reactivity, take a piece of paper and draw a small black dot or a line on it. Place the diamond over the dot or line and see if you can see the dot through the stone. If the diamond is real, then you won't be able to see it as the image is refracted. You can also conduct a similar test using a newspaper. Place the diamond flat-side down and if you can see the black type through the stone then it's probably fake. On the other hand, a real diamond will refract the image and so you will not see anything through the stone if it's the real thing.

In the pic I can see color behind the stone, is that what you're referring to?

 

[jewelerguy]

In the pic I can see color behind the stone, is that what you're referring to?

take a black ink pen and draw a line on a piece of paper. place the stone with the top flat side down on the paper and slide the stone over the line. While looking through the stone, if the line is visible, it is a fake. A genuine stone will make the line seem to disappear.

There are several other home tests you can perform on. Just do a google search of 'how to test a diamond at home'

As brianc053 stated though, most jewelers or pawn shops would probably be happy to test it for you with an electronic tester, and probably for free.

 

[pepperj]

Not a real diamond
Reasons are totally scuffed up
Magnified blue fibres through glass
A dirty inclusion at 6:00
Looks like a crack at 3:20
7 o'clock cut off (closer to centre)

 

[LadyBall]

Not a real diamond
Reasons are totally scuffed up
Magnified blue fibres through glass
A dirty inclusion at 6:00
Looks like a crack at 3:20
7 o'clock cut off (closer to centre)

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The blue fiber is my blanket behind the stone scuffed up from being in plastic baggie with 2 other suspected stones crack is from me heating it with a torch for over 2 minutes (holding it by hand the whole time) then dropping into ice water the other two stones broke apart one was cracked but apered it could have been a very very very old cut amber diamond the other stone that was found by an old train station totally shattered they all glow florescent in uv light so idk done alot of the test still not 100 sure need in put please

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Diamonds would not scuff like that just from being in baggie with a few stones.

 

[mjb Mike]

buy a lupe its easy to tell real from fake

 

[LadyBall]

Diamonds would not scuff like that just from being in baggie with a few stones.

 

[LadyBall]

I found it in a crate in an old garage garage among tools and ect.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I found it in a crate in an old garage garage among tools and ect.

Diamonds will not scuff like that. All you have to do is take it to a pawn shop or jewelry store and have it tested.

It isn't a diamond, I find diamond rings at the beaches that have be rolling in the surf and diamonds are not scuffed like that.

 

[Emil W]

Definitely not a diamond. If your stone were a diamond, even if it were carried around for years in a bag full of other diamonds it would not have that kind of wear.

Also, in some of your photos the stone appears to have double refraction, although your photos aren't sharp enough to tell for sure. Diamonds are single refraction.

Any serious jeweler will be able to test the stone since virtually every jeweler has a diamond tester (the basic type tests for heat transfer). Testing takes seconds. I've had a tester for years since I collect cut gemstones.

Asking for opinions online can only ever be inconclusive. Testing will be definitive.

 

[pepperj]

The blue fiber is my blanket behind the stone scuffed up from being in plastic baggie with 2 other suspected stones crack is from me heating it with a torch for over 2 minutes (holding it by hand the whole time) then dropping into ice water the other two stones broke apart one was cracked but apered it could have been a very very very old cut amber diamond the other stone that was found by an old train station totally shattered they all glow florescent in uv light so idk done alot of the test still not 100 sure need in put please

The question begs is why would a person do a heat & drop in water with a suspected gem?
I will take the torch in the hand for 2 minutes with a large grain of salt also.

I have diamonds in the collection in a bag, not honking big ones, but from being together for decades they look hte same as the day we placed them in he bag.
Glass scratches to the extent that the photo illustrates
The blue fibre is magnified as glass would show
Once again you want to believe (Hope) this item is a diamond.
Get it tested-costs nothing except a little time.

 

[pepperj]

This piece is nearing 100 years old.
I purchased this Estate piece from a leading named jewelery store that has been in business for over 140yrs
I contacted Con Smyth regarding this ring, and a year later it was mine.
Note no scratches.
These are real diamonds.
As stated diamonds in many posts, they don't scratch like the image shown.
We all have believed it at one time.
Digging or finding a bling, but it was something else.
(Ring is a tad grubby looking)