Found glass shard embosed 1858! And i need help dating new dump with china :)

[silversnacher]

I'm going crazy right now! I'm digging this area and I got a glass shard embossed 1858 not sure if this is patent date or what, I found a brick some porcelain and zinc jar lids and some broken china! Not sure if this is the right place to post this but could anyone help me with these china companies and when they were in operation? I know the first one is chine and I'm not sure of the second one (I don't know how to tell the difference between china and normal plates, thanks!
The one reads, F Morley and Sheldon co. Patent opaque china.
I'm going back out now

 

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[Wrecker58]

Dang i never score the full date... Nice!

 

[surf]

Mason Family History

J.L Hudson's dates from 1881. I don't know when they made a deal with Homer-Laughlin, but will keep looking, later on. Mason jars with the 1858 date were produced for many years...

"F MORLEY & CO
Many different printed marks were used incorporating these initials or name.
c.1845-58" Francis Morley (& Co)

 

[vpnavy]

Nice find silversnacher.

 

[silversnacher]

Thanks guys!

 

[SusanMN]

The Homer Laughlin piece dates somewhere from 1900 to 1920. The numbers and letters below the logo are code to the exact date. If you can read them, post them and I might be able to give you an exact year.

 

[silversnacher]

The Homer Laughlin piece dates somewhere from 1900 to 1920. The numbers and letters below the logo are code to the exact date. If you can read them, post them and I might be able to give you an exact year.

Wow that's really cool! Ill take a closer look

 

[CoilyGirl]

Love the look of that type of china.Good work Susan!

 

[silversnacher]

The Homer Laughlin piece dates somewhere from 1900 to 1920. The numbers and letters below the logo are code to the exact date. If you can read them, post them and I might be able to give you an exact year.

Unfortunately it looks Like the code has turned to three illegible splotches, oh well knowing its from 1900-1920 helps a ton! Thanks!

 

[surf]

Hi ho silver,

I gotta ask about the flip side of your earthenware, what's on it? I always try and bring home the shards with the makers mark. How did these present themselves?

So, did you return, find a bonanza of bottles, and are even now cleaning the finds in preparation to showing us more from this time capsule of yours?

"Platter
Francis Morley & Co. (active ca. 1845–59)

Date: ca. 1845–ca. 1859
Geography: West Midlands, Stoke-on-Trent, England; West Midlands, Stoke-on-Trent, England
Culture: British (American market)
Medium: Earthenware, transfer-printed
Dimensions: 14 3/4 x 12 in. (37.5 x 30.5 cm)
Classification: Ceramics" The Metropolitan Museum of Art - Platter​

 

[SusanMN]

Too bad, Silver. I think its probably closer to 1900 than 1920. For those of you into US China, my bible is Lehners Encyclopedia of US Marks on Pottery, Porcelain and Clay. A fantastic resource.

 

[silversnacher]

Hi ho silver,

I gotta ask about the flip side of your earthenware, what's on it? I always try and bring home the shards with the makers mark. How did these present themselves?

So, did you return, find a bonanza of bottles, and are even now cleaning the finds in preparation to showing us more from this time capsule of yours?



"Platter
Francis Morley & Co. (active ca. 1845–59)

Date: ca. 1845–ca. 1859
Geography: West Midlands, Stoke-on-Trent, England; West Midlands, Stoke-on-Trent, England
Culture: British (American market)
Medium: Earthenware, transfer-printed
Dimensions: 14 3/4 x 12 in. (37.5 x 30.5 cm)
Classification: Ceramics" The Metropolitan Museum of Art - Platter

I didn't find too many bottles but ill show you the stuff I brought back for now, ill show you the backs of the ones with the makers mark but there pretty plain, thanks!

 

[silversnacher]

Too bad, Silver. I think its probably closer to 1900 than 1920. For those of you into US China, my bible is Lehners Encyclopedia of US Marks on Pottery, Porcelain and Clay. A fantastic resource.

Thank you very much you have been extremely helpful!

 

[surf]

Hey silver,

The larger one seems to be embossed. Is it?

 

[silversnacher]

Hey silver,

The larger one seems to be embossed. Is it?

Nope just the number 17 with a circle on the bottom...