Found 3 points creek walking today. Possible Clovis point?

[MrMarsHill]

I literally found this creek walking TODAY. I found the big red point, which I believe is a Clovis point with the sharp pointy tip missing? I also found an unpictured white quartz notched point (gave it to my mom who was hunting with me with ZERO luck) and another small white point (pictured) I have no clue what it is. Anybody have any idea on the big "red" point though? Any of the others? Id love to get an idea of the time period etc of these if possible. I'm in Western North Carolina in the mountains just 20 mins from the TN border in a very well known, LONG TIME NA area. Looks like the back of a "Clovis point" with the point tip broken off. Am I way off base? At first I thought the "flatter, thicker" side was the base of the point and the curved part was the broken tip. After looking online, I believe the crescent moon shaped side is actually the part that would have been attached to the arrow and the other flat side is where the tip is broken off. I could be COMPLETELY wrong, just what it looked like to me Haha! Thats why I'm here asking though! I'm new to all this really and am just excited as can be to have found these relics. This is the same creek I found my NA pottery I posted as well as many of my other finds. Lots of NA history on this creek though and plenty more to be found I'm sure! This big red one was just stuck in the mud on the side of the creek, freshly exposed. What a beauty! To me anyway Haha! Thanks for any info and as always I appreciate the support! Stay safe and keep hunting!

 

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[MrMarsHill]

Here are pics of the measurements. Hard to see but the point as it sits is 2.25" long and .75" at its widest point. I THINK there is atleast .25" of the tip missing, maybe more. Its 3-4 times the size of the other 2 I found and is a completely different material and size, shape etc. Strange to find in such a small area. Here are a few pics my mom sent me of the notched quartz point I found today and gave to her. She usually has all the luck... today was my day lol!

 

[joshuaream]

I think your red point is a Guilford. Cool points and material. There are a couple of different types of Guilford points, here is a link to one of them.

Guilford Concave Base Projectile Point

 

[sandchip]

I think Joshua is spot on. I found this one in west central Georgia many years ago. Amazing similarity to yours in both type and material, and not what you expect to find around here. Can't help but wonder how a NC point ended up down this way. That is, if it's even a Guilford in the first place, but I couldn't figure what else it could be. Very odd with the tiny serrations.

Yours would've been a killer. What a heartbreaker.

 

[SD51]

Very nice finds, Congrats! Someday I hope to find my first one!

 

[Older The Better]

I’d add Clovis in general is fluted, other paleo features include basal grinding and quality material. Still some nice finds all I’ve got in the last several months are badly broken tool fragments.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

I think your red point is a Guilford. Cool points and material. There are a couple of different types of Guilford points, here is a link to one of them.

Guilford Concave Base Projectile Point

Have to agree with Joshua. I have a couple from the same general area.

 

[Tdog]

Joshua nailed it. Here's another reference to it...


GUILFORD-YUMA - LITHICS-Net

 

[MrMarsHill]

You guys are awesome... as always! I appreciate all the replies. SD51, you'll find yours for sure, just keep LOOKING! This red beauty was just sticking flat in the mud waiting to be noticed! I just wish it hadnt been broken... and yes, I searched the area for the rest of the point to no avail. I'm super happy with the find and I'm prepping for another day on the creek right now! Any more opinions or info are welcome. Thanks for the great links also! Tonight I will dive in to learn more about the different points and things I should know. I have some good starting points with those links...

 

[MrMarsHill]

@sandchip that is strikingly similar! Especially the color and apparent material. Very odd. My first thought when I found it was where did they get this translucent red rock? It looks like nothing I see out here regularly and I'm out A LOT! Maybe they were brought in? Traded? Either way, I'm pretty sure ours are VERY similar. Those tiny serrations on yours are impressive though!

 

[MAMucker]

I’ve surface hunted a bit in Mathews, NC. The Red-Clay dirt sticks to everything.

The material on the Guilford looks to be a type of quartzite. If it’s clean, that’s a beautiful red variety.

Nice finds!