Food for Thought

[Old Bookaroo]

"The Tombstone has the threadbare story of the mine with the iron door, located in the Canapea mountains. When tradition fastened the iron door to the mine of fabulous riches, iron doors were more scarce than gold mines."

~ Arizona Weekly Citizen (Tucson, Ariz), May 01, 1886


Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

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[Al D]

"The Tombstone has the threadbare story of the mine with the iron door, located in the Canapea mountains. When tradition fastened the iron door to the mine of fabulous riches, iron doors were more scarce than gold mines."

~ Arizona Weekly Citizen (Tucson, Ariz), May 01, 1886


Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

The treasure of Sacambaya, is supposed to have a great iron door, according to the San Roman document

 

[gollum]

The treasure of Sacambaya, is supposed to have a great iron door, according to the San Roman document

Alan,

Can you provide one document of the times that gave the name of San Roman as being in Bolivia or Peru for the Jesuit Order?

Mike

 

[Al D]

Alan,

Can you provide one document of the times that gave the name of San Roman as being in Bolivia or Peru for the Jesuit Order?

Mike

Hello Mike
I got the information from an old book titles “Lost Treasures of the World”
I copied the document from that book, so it probably has many errors, my interest was in the way it was worded, it seems to contain a cipher.
I posted the San Roman document, as I got it from that book on another post here, I will get the specifics of my source and post it for you.
best regards
alan

 

[Al D]

Alan,

Can you provide one document of the times that gave the name of San Roman as being in Bolivia or Peru for the Jesuit Order?

Mike

Here is the book, the story is on page 112

 

[Holyground]

You who reach this place withdraw. This spot is dedicated to God Almighty and the one who dares to enter, a dolorous death awaits him in this world and eternal condemnation in the world he goes to. The riches that belong to God Our Master are not for humans. Withdraw and you will live in peace and the blessing of the Master will make your life sweet and you will die rich with the goods of this world. Obey the command of God Almighty our Master in life and in death. In the name of God the Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost. Amen.

 

[Al D]

So, you must be familier with this

 

[sdcfia]

So, you must be familier with this

For those interested in visiting Rennes-le-Chateau and the Church of Mary Magdalene: unless you have a car or can find a taxi (good luck with that), it’s a four kilometer walk up the hill from Couiza. Plan accordingly.

 

[South Sea mariner]

Hola sdfia

Sounds like you have visited the place? Is it worth a visit?

Mal

 

[Oroblanco]

This is quite an intriguing legend, some folks are highly skeptical of it on various grounds. Perhaps we can lay some of those doubts to rest.

Firstly, the presence of gold in the Canon del Oro is not only well established but easily proven. There is every reason to believe that a lode gold mine could exist in the mountains, that perhaps was the source of some of that placer. Or perhaps it is not related to that placer deposit at all?

Next, an iron door is far from impossible.



This one is perhaps the very one referred to in the 1930s CA story


Can you see it? Here is a closer shot - this is in Joshua Tree national monument by the way



While an iron door certainly would have been trouble and expense, it is far from impossible and actually would be a logical way to try to seal up a particularly rich mine to keep people out. The padres were not stone age men, they were highly educated for their time and certainly could have obtained the iron for the door. In fact an iron BOUND door would be much more likely and easier to have built by a blacksmith or the padres themselves if they had blacksmithing abilities.

In sum, this is far from the most unlikely of lost mine tales, it is rather more than just possible. Considering the placer of Canada del Oro, it is quite likely that a lode gold mine might be hidden in the recesses of the mountain, in a relatively inaccessible place, to be happened upon by hikers and hunters occasionally over the centuries. It is more likely than having a number of different people making up virtually identical tales of accidently finding a well hidden mine sealed by an iron door, and then being unable to find it again.

This reminds me of a little 'project' I had intended to do here, for folks who doubt how a mine could be lost at all. I don't have the time to do it tonight but will try to do it soon, something to illustrate how a mine can be so well hidden by nature alone, that you can literally pass within ten feet of it and not be able to see it.

Please do continue;

 

[sdcfia]

Hola sdfia

Sounds like you have visited the place? Is it worth a visit?

Mal

Hey, Mal.

Yes, For me it was worth a visit. It’s sort of “ground zero” for a lot of highly intriguing treasure lore. That part of France is interesting and beautiful in its own right, so you can’t really go wrong. It’s also the region where the catlick church carried out the crusade that exterminated the Cathers in the early 1200s - a bad time for free thinkers. There are some handy little local trains into a lot of that terrain, but having a car is a good idea in those foothills and remote villages.

 

[Loke]

....
This reminds me of a little 'project' I had intended to do here, for folks who doubt how a mine could be lost at all. I don't have the time to do it tonight but will try to do it soon, something to illustrate how a mine can be so well hidden by nature alone, that you can literally pass within ten feet of it and not be able to see it.

Please do continue;

Don't keep us in suspense - spill the beans!!

 

[Oroblanco]

Don't keep us in suspense - spill the beans!!

Well I need to clear it with you (for one) before posting any of it, and it might be something more suited for a magazine article or a blog post. Not sure where it would fit in the forums.

Please do continue;

 

[Loke]

Well I need to clear it with you (for one) before posting any of it, and it might be something more suited for a magazine article or a blog post. Not sure where it would fit in the forums.

Please do continue;

No need to clear anything with me - I am fine with whatever you choose to write!
Btw, pics/vids are on their way - finally ... had it returned for insufficient stamps :-(
(Who the heck knows that a small (very small) bubble envelope qualifies as a package?)

 

[Lightning boy]

What is the mine pictured in J Tree ?