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No clue but it does appear to have melted into or onto something...old jewelry that
melted in a ship fire?
 

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Blacksheep said:
No clue but it does appear to have melted into or onto something...old jewelry that
melted in a ship fire?




sounds good to me!
 

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Im pretty sure it is gold I've tested both with 10k, 14k JSP acid and it passed, im kinda new with these acid tests but have tested real gold with this kit and seems 2 work as depicted in directions.Believe it or not I found this 6 years ago on the beach and figured it was junk been sitting in a coin bucket all this time and I almost tossed it out when I found it but I tend 2 keep stuff if im not sure what it is and now I know why!
 

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It looks like a casting plug, made when you invest using a centrifuge caster. The hot metal runs into the mold and solidifies, and is left connected to a stem with a plug end like that formed by the extra metal that did not go into the mold. This is usually cut off and melted down, or used in the next cast.
 

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Whatever it is you should go to a jeweler to find out if it is gold or not! Even if you have already tested it yourself. Get a second opinion. :)
 

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plehbah said:
JahMan2003 said:
Looks like a button to me. Maybe Civil war?

Did they have old Buicks during the Civil War?

Gee. If it old and cruddy, and not identifiable, then it must be from the CW period according to all of the wishful thinkers.
 

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Was it that color when you found it? Did you clean it?

Because it was found on the Treasure Beaches, it may be older. I believe 1715 disaster gold would be of a high content like almost 24K. I suggest have it tested at a pawn shop or jeweler. Its either 1715 or it is modern 20-21st century. Highly unlikely to be Civil War related although possible that some wrecks from that era are mixed in.


cuzcosquirrel said:
It looks like a casting plug, made when you invest using a centrifuge caster. The hot metal runs into the mold and solidifies, and is left connected to a stem with a plug end like that formed by the extra metal that did not go into the mold. This is usually cut off and melted down, or used in the next cast.
Im curious do you have any pics? Is this an old method of casting? This is best guess yet.
 

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Here are two gold ones and two silver ones. One of the silver ones still has the cast attached.



The backs:



This method of casting is old, in that plugs will be produced from any type of wax casting process. This would also be an ideal type of object to use to test a metal detector with.
 

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cuzcosquirrel said:
Here are two gold ones and two silver ones. One of the silver ones still has the cast attached.

This method of casting is old, in that plugs will be produced from any type of wax casting process.

OK I see. The melted gold or silver is poured into a mold through a hole on top. This is the overflow. This may even have been done after the shipwreck by survivors or by Ais Indians.

I think you should bring it by the Sebastian museum, Teanbean, and let the curator take a look at it. You may have a relic from the 1715 disaster. If you dont mind, what wrecksite were you working? Was it near a survivor camp?

Great ID cuzcosquirrel. I think you may have it IDed it. If it is 20K-24K then it must be. If its 14K, then it may be someones tester. Interesting find.
 

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bigcypresshunter said:
TEANBEAN- before this goes any further and you makes fools out of us, ...ARE YOU SURE THIS IS GOLD!

It seems that I remember a post where you thought an old brass button and/or a brass religious medal were gold . ::) http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,172088.msg1257506.html#msg1257506


I know the old button I found was just plated but was new at testing gold items my bad but this has passed my test 14k and I just got back from jeweler and he look and said it was some sort of jewelry casting and he weighed it and offered me $80.00 talk about low ball offers needless 2 say he didn't get around too testing it and wanted it for nothing I'm guessing if he tested it the offer would have been much better but he did say it was gold soo no jokes here its at least 14k,also it was not cleaned very much at all when found but shows signs of rubbing on the ocean floor.
 

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Teeenbean said:
bigcypresshunter said:
TEANBEAN- before this goes any further and you makes fools out of us, ...ARE YOU SURE THIS IS GOLD!

It seems that I remember a post where you thought an old brass button and/or a brass religious medal were gold . ::) http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,172088.msg1257506.html#msg1257506


I know the old button I found was just plated but was new at testing gold items my bad but this has passed my test 14k and I just got back from jeweler and he look and said it was some sort of jewelry casting and he weighed it and offered me $80.00 talk about low ball offers needless 2 say he didn't get around too testing it and wanted it for nothing I'm guessing if he tested it the offer would have been much better but he did say it was gold soo no jokes here its at least 14k,also it was not cleaned very much at all when found but shows signs of rubbing on the ocean floor.
OK lol. 8) I suggest taking it to the Sebastian museum and let them have a look at it. Very interesting find. I think cuzcosquirrel nailed it. Possible 1715 disaster relic. You may want to post this in the Shipwreck or Spanish Cob section.
 

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