Flake or blade?

Older The Better

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Found this today, se Kansas never seen this material before not sure if it’s quartz or more of a quartzite. It definitely isn’t local. Covered in dirt it had that lens cross section and I thought I may have a tool, after cleaning it’s probably just a flake but I thought I’d ask just in case those familiar with this kind of material might know something I don’t.
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I’m not seeing any evidence of a tool.
Looks like some type of igneous rock. Not sure what though.
 

All I know is it doesn’t belong, working a new site on a bluff top, just below the 8” of dirt is a weathered sandstone sitting on fine gray limestone. It was floating just under the surface with a bunch of regular flakes. I pick up all flakes I find and I’m almost sure this is a first for this material

Also I guess I should have done the title better, I’m wondering if it’s a flake or flake blade, not thinking biface or anything, I just have no experience if telling a material like this has had any extra work. With the cross section and little wave to the edge it seems right but I can’t see any obvious retouching.
 

Don't think it is even a reduction flake off a piece being worked. Looks like natural stone.
 

It does look natural, hell I’d probably be in your camp if it was someone else’s post but I’ll say it again me more time, that stone doesn’t exist in the area I look at the geology every weekend because I rock hound too. That’s also why I showed the one angle showing a platform and a bulb. If it’s natural I can’t think of an explanation how it got there, above any flooding being on the high point in the landscape area has never been farmed it’s always been a private cattle pasture outside of a tiny Kansas town so it’s not remnants of an old building or people hiking or anything. And being among a pile of other flakes… but anyway it’s not that important it was a post out of a mild curiosity if people want to say nothing then that’s fine.
 

Looks like a non heat treated quartzite piece. When heat is applied it will turn a yellow in color. I have some at home I can show after work if you like. The ones I’ve found don’t show any edge work but are large in size.
 

Some examples of quartzite from my area. Flakes in hand some are heat treated some aren’t.
Points one is heat treated other isn’t.
I find both. Hope it helps
The white ones aren’t heat treated
The colored ones are and can be tan and even red.
 

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A good tip provided by Older the Better--'all I know is it doesn't belong'. When I know the area, and I know the geology, one of the first things I watch out for.
 

Want to put a bow on this one too. I Appreciate the effort creekside, been busy lately haven’t got around to getting back to this post I think you’re right on the quartzite
Here’s as close as I can get, has a little translucency appreciate the responses
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No sign of intentional flaking in pictures by man.
 

Platform
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Bulb of percussion
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Sharp edges feathering out opposite the platform and bulb of percussion
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Material that doesn’t necessarily show clear flake scars
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Non native material found in a hole maybe 3x3 foot with this
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I really don’t want to fight about whether it’s a flake but I can’t help it this afternoon. I’ll try to be done with it at that though
 

This one I found the other day Savannah River is made from quartzite. Idk if it’s heat treated or not but is a tan in color. The quartz family is really hard to see the flaking sometimes. Not sure what they would of used to flake it with.
 

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