First intact shoe buckle, very large KG copper, spun tombac, big musket ball

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One more hunt at recent old site. Targets getting sparse, but older. Any date range thoughts on the buckle (note the TA stamp) and I added a pic of some other coppers found here that are normal size compared to the new holed very large kg variety.
 

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View attachment 2165691One more hunt at recent old site. Targets getting sparse, but older. Any date range thoughts on the buckle (note the TA stamp) and I added a pic of some other coppers found here that are normal size compared to the new holed very large kg variety.
That's a nice shoe buckle! Congratulations on your finds.
 

Well done getting the buckle frame, and the LC.
I'm thinking it could be a William IV Penny instead of KG
Neat lead Stylus (the one that looks like a clock hand)
 

Well done getting the buckle frame, and the LC.
I'm thinking it could be a William IV Penny instead of KG
Neat lead Stylus (the one that looks like a clock hand)
Well done getting the buckle frame, and the LC.
I'm thinking it could be a William IV Penny instead of KG
Neat lead Stylus (the one that looks like a clock hand)
Thx for the ID on the copper! This is the second “lead stylus” from this site. I thought these were very basic needles, what would a stylus be used for?
 

I don't recall seeing many 1 penny British coins posted. Halfpennies, yes, but not the bigger ones. The buckle frame looks like it is from the late 1700s. Big and showy. That is one old site! I'd love to get at a site like that!
 

What a sweet shoe buckle! Whole fancy one still on my bucket list. Have a very plain one that's smooshed flat.
 

Nice shoe buckle frame Thad. Technically not an "intact" shoe buckle since the chape is missing. It dates from around 1790 based on the pin terminals. The pin terminals on earlier knee and shoe buckles went all the way across the width of the frame. here are a couple examples of what I mean, an illustration from the Archaeological report from Fort Ligonier, and some actual French & Indian War Knee/Shoe buckles I recovered. The copper is weird, never saw one like it, but I'm sure it's not an 18th century King George.
 

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Nice shoe buckle frame Thad. Technically not an "intact" shoe buckle since the chape is missing. It dates from around 1790 based on the pin terminals. The pin terminals on earlier knee and shoe buckles went all the way across the width of the frame. here are a couple examples of what I mean, an illustration from the Archaeological report from Fort Ligonier, and some actual French & Indian War Knee/Shoe buckles I recovered. The copper is weird, never saw one like it, but I'm sure it's not an 18th century King George.
Thx for the info Steve!
 

View attachment 2165691One more hunt at recent old site. Targets getting sparse, but older. Any date range thoughts on the buckle (note the TA stamp) and I added a pic of some other coppers found here that are normal size compared to the new holed very large kg variety.
Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!
 

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