✅ SOLVED Excelsior Token Help

[Natman]

Dug this token and wanted some info or history of the place or the person. Also wonder how old it is. Thanks for any help.

 

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[Hawks88]

Very nice token in real nice shape. Sorry I can’t help with the ID.

 

[creskol]

Try a Google Search for "excelsior, 312 olive st., st. louis"

 

[jeff of pa]

Cool Find NATMAN !!!!

"Brass Check"

The Company Dates back to 1870 in West Virginia.
However the Address suggests

Possibly Circa 1902 - 1913. for the St. Louis Location..

The St. Louis Republic. (St. Louis, Mo.), 11 May 1902.



Looks like the Hilton is there now



https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84020274/1902-05-11/ed-1/seq-44/#date1=1836&index=2&date2=1963&searchType=advanced&language=&sequence=0&words=EXCELSIOR+Olive&proxdistance=10&state=Missouri&rows=20&ortext=&proxtext=excelsior+olive&phrasetext=&andtext=&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1

 

[jeff of pa]

Though it appears they were at that location till at least 1913, & somewhere between than and 1918 they moved.

they Advertised from

May 05, 1902.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/...orks&andtext=&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1


to

Sept. 03, 1905.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/...rks&andtext=&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=17

 

[jeff of pa]

338 results containing “the phrase "excelsior stencil works"” 1870 to 1905


https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/...=&proxdistance=50&rows=20&searchType=advanced

 

[jeff of pa]

as for H. Hildebrand,it appears he Purchased the Checks,
for his business. However I cannot find him.

 

[Natman]

thanks for all the research!

 

[idahotokens]

Natman--this token is one of the series called "St. Louis Part-Incuse" tokens. The manufacturer, the Excelsior Stencil Works of St. Louis, operated out of several addresses over the years, but was at 312 Olive St. from 1900-1913. This is from an article by Bruce Smith in the Journal of the Token and Medal Society of Feb 2003 which can be read online with a little searching. The company sold tokens to many customers around the country, but the majority of them were within a few hundred miles of St. Louis, so the search for H. Hildebrand should be concentrated in your area. I will do some more looking as time permits. I tried looking on tokencatalog.com, but the site appears to be down right now - hopefully it will be back with us shortly. With your permission, I would post your token there so more eyes will see it.
John in the Great 208

 

[jeff of pa]

219 results containing “the phrase "Hildebrand"” 1902 to 1913 in MO.in Case you wish to see if any are Connected to a saloon Or other business in your area


https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/...tance=5&rows=20&searchType=advanced&sort=date

 

[idahotokens]

Natman--I assume you just gave the okay to post it on tokencatalog Also, I see that there was a Harry J. Hildebrand who was a bartender in St. Louis ca. 1915-18. There are a lot of others with that initial and name, but so far I haven't seen either the Harry Hildenbrand or any others as "proprietor" of a token-using business.
John

Thanks that would be great!

 

[Natman]

I was talking with another guy who already posted the token on that site, sorry....I didn't know it was the same one.

 

[Natman]

John, Please tell me where you see HJ Hildebrand as a bartender in St. Louis, I can't find it. Thanks!

 

[idahotokens]

1916 & 1917 St. Louis City Directories. I sent the info Larry P. put on tokencatalog to the MO token cataloger to get his opinion. The 1906 date lines up better with the date of the Excelsior reverse.
John

John, Please tell me where you see HJ Hildebrand as a bartender in St. Louis, I can't find it. Thanks!