English pennant

[rammjäger]

Hi,
I have this Gloucestershire regiment pennant and they said it was used in Africa
near Tobruk.
I also have no idea if it is WW2 or after 1945
Both sides show the same images.
-Thanks
HH.

 

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[Angelo]

Gloucestershire sounds good. Here's an item on ebay Depicting similar emblem.

Tony

 

[justine093]

since the pennant looks slightly newer than
WWII, possibly where they made history in the Korean War

http://www.glosters.org/


I am sure if you contact them they can tell you exactly when those colors were used.

 

[rammjäger]

Gloucestershire sounds good. Here's an item on ebay Depicting similar emblem.

Tony

Hello,
yes,I have seen it on Ebay too.
If I'm not mistaken,this one item was found on a battlefield near Berlin.
Miguel

 

[rammjäger]

since the pennant looks slightly newer than
WWII, possibly where they made history in the Korean War

http://www.glosters.org/


I am sure if you contact them they can tell you exactly when those colors were used.

according to the seller this pennant was taken home to Germany by a Panzer grenadier
that knocked out an english tank by himself. This kind of pennants were normally used
high atached to the radio antennas of the tanks.
If the tank was in flames it should be a little darkened by the smoke - or perhaps not?
It could have been new by the time and afterwards kept all this years in a trunk or
something like that -who knows??

 

[rammjäger]

since the pennant looks slightly newer than
WWII, possibly where they made history in the Korean War

http://www.glosters.org/


I am sure if you contact them they can tell you exactly when those colors were used.

Thank you
I will try to contact them.

 

[justine093]

http://members.tripod.com/~Glosters/ww2bats.htm

6th Battalion (Territorials)
Converted to 44th Royal Tank Regiment, November 1938.
Served in North Africa, Sicily and Italy.

44th royal tank regiment engaged in the capture of tobruk on
Jan 21-22 of 1941. Though I am unsure if they were using the
gloucestershire colors(?)

here's a picture of tanks at Tubrok (shame you can't see the flags.):

 

[PBK]

Link for you:

http://regiments.org/regiments/uk/inf/028Glos.htm

 

[rammjäger]

Thanks to all !
I have just sent an e-mail with photos of the pennant to the:
contactglosters2861st@glosters.org
They say they will answer my request as soon as possible....
HH.
Mike

 

[rammjäger]

I have just received a reply.
He wrote that he is unable to identify it .However he passed it forward
to the Curator of the Soldiers of Gloucestershire Museum to see if he
has any clues to its origin

While searching I found this:

2nd RGH sailed for the Middle East in August 1941 as part of 22nd Armoured Brigade and fought in North Africa. The regiment was equipped with Crusader tanks and took part in the operation to seize Sidi Rezegh, south of Tobruk. It suffered heavy losses in the battle fought on 19th November, losing 30 of its 52 tanks in the action against a greatly superior force of Germans and Italians. 2nd RGH then moved north, where the brigade came under heavy attack from the Germans. The regiment was pulled back to be re equipped with inferior Honey tanks and took part in an abortive advance towards Agedabia. On 1st January 1943, 2nd RGH was relieved and retired to Egypt to re-equip. On 27th May the regiment suffered heavy losses in the face of a massive attack master-minded by Rommel in his thrust against Tobruk. F squadron was decimated, losing all but one of its tanks. Re-equipped yet again, on 6th June the regiment was shattered in a battle at “the Cauldron” south of Tobruk. The commanding officer, Lieutenant Colonel N.A. Birley and the 2nd in command, Major W.A.V. Trevor, were killed in swift succession. The regiment was disbanded in January 1943, its men dispersed to reinforce other regiments, especially the 4th and 8th Hussars, the Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry and the 5th Royal Tank Regiment.

 

[rammjäger]

Today I have received this mail:

..."Thank you for your enquiry. Sadly, it is not like any of the sphinxes that we have here and as there were so many images used, it is difficult to know its origins.

Sorry that I can’t be of help.".....

Regards,

GC Streatfeild

Soldiers of Gloucestershire Museum
Custom House
Gloucester Docks
Gloucester GL1 2HE
Tel 01452
e-mail:

PS.: I wonder, what the X2 stands for?

 

[justine093]

wow, that wasn't much help at all, was it