English Buckle?

[kuger]

Hello!A friend recently dug this buckle and was hoping to get any info on it?

 

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[RickyD]

Ofcourse, the first question is where was it found? Though I found nothing exactly like it, I did find some indicators to what it might be, and its time period. First of all, the clasp is very different from what I've seen in the past, and, I might ad, finding both pieces makes its value so much more. Whatever that would be. But it has all the ear markings of an 1800's British Victorian Senior Naval Officer's Sword Buckle. Like I said, the configurations of the crown and anchors are not the same as what I've found, nor the way it clasps, but those symbols point in that direction. Hope that helps...

 

[kuger]

Thanks,It came from the west coast.Give me what ya got Cru,I respect your opinion and knowledge

 

[hammered]

According to the attached link it is a 19thC Navy belt slide, about 16 rows down. I don't know if they are correct in their id or not. I'm sure Cru will confirm or not , nice find by the way .


http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/B/buckles.htm


hammered

 

[shaun7]

According to the attached link it is a 19thC Navy belt slide, about 16 rows down. I don't know if they are correct in their id or not. I'm sure Cru will confirm or not , nice find by the way .


http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/B/buckles.htm


hammered

Well found mate

 

[kuger]

Thanks Hammered!!

 

[hammered]

Thanks Hammered!!

That's OK , I just hope Cru agrees

 

[kuger]

Thanks Hammered!!

That's OK , I just hope Cru agrees

Nah,didnt figure he could honor me with his opinion,yours is just as good

 

[Kenosha Kid]

According to the attached link it is a 19thC Navy belt slide, about 16 rows down. I don't know if they are correct in their id or not. I'm sure Cru will confirm or not , nice find by the way .

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/B/buckles.htm

hammered

This site lists it (also) as a 19thC Naval Belt Fitment (with St Edward's crown and fouled anchors) :

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/showrecords.php?product=6183&cat=178

 

[kuger]

The ones pictured in the two links are belt slides,this one appears to actually be a buckle??

 

[hammered]

The ones pictured in the two links are belt slides,this one appears to actually be a buckle??

To be truthfull, kuger, the item your friend dug is complete, or so it seems. The examples, so far compared, are incomplete, they are obviously from the same bit of kit, so a true id is a bit of an educated guess. It could be a slide or a variation of a "snake" type buckle in my opinion, from the pics. The fact that it is Navy is not in question, how corroded the hook/link is, may be the answer. I still think it is a slide of sorts and will continue to research it for you. I hope that you/we will get/find a true answer .


hammered

 

[kuger]

Very true Hammered,and thanks I appreciate it!!

I understand Cru!I wouldnt expect anything less as long as you were whooped from a long day of digging!!

 

[Kenosha Kid]

The ones pictured in the two links are belt slides,this one appears to actually be a buckle??

Yes, yours does appear to be a buckle. The link I provided was (hopefully) giving clearer details and some additional info (St. Edward's crown) to better track this down.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ouled+anchor+buckle?&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

"When the Merchant Navy started to use the foul anchor device, a crown was added for all naval officers in 1812. The same basic design remains in use today." (granted, the page is about buttons, but it tells of the year the crown was added)

Still searching, but have only found partials and all on the UK site.

 

[kuger]

The ones pictured in the two links are belt slides,this one appears to actually be a buckle??

Yes, yours does appear to be a buckle. The link I provided was (hopefully) giving clearer details and some additional info (St. Edward's crown) to better track this down.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ouled+anchor+buckle?&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

"When the Merchant Navy started to use the foul anchor device, a crown was added for all naval officers in 1812. The same basic design remains in use today." (granted, the page is about buttons, but it tells of the year the crown was added)

Still searching, but have only found partials and all on the UK site.

Thanks Kid,I hope I can return the favor someday