✅ SOLVED Eagle button and two dont knows

[fyrffytr1]

Eagle button and two don't knows

I found these today and would like some help IDing them if possible. The eagle button has a Scovills & Co/Waterbury back mark. It is a raised mark, depressed channel. Is it pre-war? The round thing is a lid and has script lettering on it that reads either PE Co or EP Co. And the last thing I have no idea on. Someone suggested that it may be part of a telegraph machine.

 

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[Breezie]

The 2nd item looks like part of the package that came out of the men's bathroom machine. Breezie

 

[fyrffytr1]

The 2nd item looks like part of the package that came out of the men's bathroom machine. Breezie

That thought did cross my mind but the Script lettering threw me off.

 

[taz42o]

Your last item is the top from a model T coil box.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

All "Scovills & Co." backmarks date from precisely 1840 to 1850. The reason for that narrow, exact 10-year date range is that the company's name was different prior to 1840, and changed again in 1850 (becoming the Scovill Manufacturing Company).

 

[fyrffytr1]

All "Scovills & Co." backmarks date from precisely 1840 to 1850. The reason for that narrow, exact 10-year date range is that the company's name was different prior to 1840, and changed again in 1850 (becoming the Scovill Manufacturing Company).

Thanks for the info. Would there have been troops here in Georgia during that time period?

 

[fyrffytr1]

Your last item is the top from a model T coil box.View attachment 731555

Thanks for the ID. I never cease to be amazed by the wealth of information Y'all contribute to this site.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Fyrffytr1 wrote:
> Would there have been troops here in Georgia during that time [1840-to-1850] period?

Only a Federal installations whose staff included Army troops, such as Fort Pulaski in Savannah GA.

Because the US Army eagle-button without a letter in the shield did not exist until 1854, your "plain shield" eagle-button is proof that Scovill used old leftover button-backs when it began manufacturing plain-shield eagle-buttons.

Unless you found it in the vicinity of a prewar Federal installation staffed by Army troops, your 1840s-to-1850 backmark eagle button was almost certainly on the uniform of a yankee invader during 1864-65, or during the postwar Occupation/"Reconstruction" period.

 

[fyrffytr1]

TCG,
Thanks for the information. I have a theory that the eagle buttons I have found here may have come from prisoners at Andersonville prison. The badge in my avatar was carried into the war by a Yankee who was interred at Andersonville and died there. I figure there were guards that lived at the site where I found this stuff. Maybe they took it off the prisoners as souvenirs or maybe the prisoners traded for food or tobacco.

 

[taz42o]

If you flip that lid over and take another pic maybe we can read it, I think we are looking at the bottom of it.

 

[fyrffytr1]

If you flip that lid over and take another pic maybe we can read it, I think we are looking at the bottom of it.

That is the top. I tried to get a picture showing more detail but they are just not coming out right. Here is what I have of the other side. I will try to get a better picture with another camera.

 

[fyrffytr1]

OK, here is a better picture./

 

[taz42o]

Well Id say its P E co. But still not sure what its from.

 

[Breezie]

I'm wondering if this EP Co. made aluminum tins back during the 40's when they were first established?

EPCO, Engineered Products Co

 

[fyrffytr1]

I'm wondering if this EP Co. made aluminum tins back during the 40's when they were first established?

EPCO, Engineered Products Co

According to their history they started out making storm door locking mechanisms.
70 years in business | Frontpage

 

[Breezie]

According to their history they started out making storm door locking mechanisms.
70 years in business | Frontpage

If they made storm door locking mechanisms, I'm wonder if this round piece could be the facial portion on a storm door knob? Breezie

 

[fyrffytr1]

If they made storm door locking mechanisms, I'm wonder if this round piece could be the facial portion on a storm door knob? Breezie

Quit making me think! It hurts!!!

 

[fyrffytr1]

Eureka!!! I have found the answer! It's a lid from a Ponds Cold Cream Jar!
Vintage Pond's Cold Cream Jar circa 1920's by ArtfulHeart on Etsy

 

[Breezie]

Quit making me think! It hurts!!!

Oh, hush, you know it's good for ya! Breezie

 

[Breezie]

Eureka!!! I have found the answer! It's a lid from a Ponds Cold Cream Jar!
Vintage Pond's Cold Cream Jar circa 1920's by ArtfulHeart on Etsy

Yeah! Great ID! Breezie