Dont Know Any Thoughts

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Don't Know Any Thoughts

Hi All I dug this awhile ago . I have know idea what it is or how old it is. So anyone know anything be great to hear. Thanks for looking and helping if you can.

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That is a saw handle stud or screw. It appears to be an older one, but it's hard to date them.
 

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Many saw makers going back to early 19th century England made medallions with the Warranted Superior (WS) label. It pre-dates Henry Disston (1819-1878) by at least a generation, possibly more. Use of the phrase is not limited to saws. A quick online search shows it was used in advertising for manufactured goods such as shoes and Remington pistols. Warranted and guaranteed have the same meaning, which is the maker's word that his product is superior. The claim is only as good as the word of the maker, if you think about it.

Most English WS medallions have a crown and most American ones have an eagle. Later Disston-made WS medallions have the words "Warranted Superior," a circle of dots, stars at the three and nine o'clock positions, and appear with or without an eagle. The illustration of replacement medallions in the Disston 1906 catalog shows an eagle, the 1911 catalog has a keystone, and illustrations in the 1914, 1918, and 1923 catalogs feature a blank space in the center of the medallion. None are stamped with the name "Disston." Later medallions on some of the Keystone-brand saws (1935-1954) have eagles. An example of this is shown, left.

Most of the larger American manufacturers made saws with both branded medallions and WS versions. The purpose would have been to differentiate between the products on which they put their name and lower-priced tools on which they chose not to put their brand name. The irony is that, in America, the Warranted Superior label often was put on the companies' inferior products. Many top-grade English saws have WS medallions while others have brand-name medallions.

When you find an American WS saw, there may be a slightly less than 50% chance that it was made by Disston. Disston had a very large portion of the market, but it was not a monopoly. Atkins, Bishop, Jennings, Woodrough & McParlin, and Simonds (1900-1926) were a few of the large saw manufacturers that made saws with some form of a WS medallion with an eagle. Atkins' secondary line was actually labeled "Phoenix Warranted."
(Text source here: http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/faq.html#ws)
 

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creskol said:
That is a saw handle stud or screw. It appears to be an older one, but it's hard to date them.

Good one Creskol! :thumbsup: Breezie
 

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That's the first I've seen posted having the back nut. :thumbsup:
 

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Thanks All for the help. Way to id it Creskol.

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I cant find this exact medallion but I think Mackaydons response is worth a read. "Most English WS medallions have a crown and most American ones have an eagle." Its probably one of the older saw medallions from England.. As a matter of fact, I think its an English seal with a crown, lion, and unicorn similar to this..
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Heres a good link.
http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/index.html
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