Democrat Tax Per Mile Scheme Surfaces Again in Congress

[Red James Cash]

Democrat Tax Per Mile Scheme Surfaces Again in Congress

December 5th, 2013

If implemented, the federal gas tax will nearly double

(KurtNimmo) - Rep. Earl Blumenauer, an Oregon Democrat, is investigating a wealth confiscation system that “looks to the future and helps provide a more stable funding base for the next one hundred years.”

Blumenauer has introduced H.R. 3638, federal legislation that will establish a Road Usage Fee Pilot Program to study an automobile mileage-based fee scheme. The bill was introduced on December 3.

Once implemented, the plan would nearly double taxes on gasoline from 18.4 cents to 33.4 cents per gallon.

The Oregon congressman introduced a similar bill last December. H.R. 6662 was pushed as a jobs creation program.

“With the Highway Trust Fund facing a 21 percent reduction revenue by 2040, based on current driving patterns and projected increases in fuel economy, we need innovative solutions to close this gap,” Blumenauer told The Hill on December 14, 2012.

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Fuel economy is a creation of the federal government. In the 1970s, ostensibly in response to “oil shocks” in the Middle East, Congress imposed something called Corporate Average Fuel Economy, known as CAFE, on automobile manufacturers.

The supposed oil crisis was a government creation. The shortage resulted in response to governmental price controls and provided another excuse for government to devise and impose a socialist solution to a situation the market would have balanced out under supply and demand.

The imbalance was also due to an embargo imposed by Arab oil-producing states for the lopsided foreign policy of the United States and its support of Israel in the 1973 Yom Kippur War.

Blumenauer’s legislation represents a natural response by the state to previous fixes imposed by the state. Now that EPA mandated fuel economy standards have reduced the amount of oil used by Americans, the time has arrived for the government to figure out how to make up for an unacceptable loss of revenue.

Democrats are trying to sell their latest shakedown as an infrastructure and job-creation effort. Jimmy Carter’s socialist response to an artificial oil crisis in the 1970s was sold under the banner of ending American dependence on foreign oil.

Stealing more money from hard-pressed tax payers for highway development invariably results in deteriorating roads and infrastructure. The nonprofit transportation research group TRIP, using the latest available Federal Highway Administration data regarding all roads eligible for federal dollars, discovered that the more money government pours into highway projects, the higher the percentage of poor road and infrastructure conditions.

In August, the Tribune-Review reported that the analysis concluded that the percentage of pavement miles in poor condition in 2008, 20.7, actually rose to 21.4 in 2011 despite Obama’s

2009 “stimulus” of $27 billion allocated for work on roads.

“The more road-work money there is, the more money there is that’s likely to be wasted – and the greater the temptation is to direct those funds for political benefit, not to where they’re needed most,” the Pennsylvania website noted.

Source:Infowars

 

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[UncleMatt]

Remember when you claimed a couple of days ago you are independent and post articles that criticize the right as much as the left? When will that start?

 

[Red James Cash]

Remember when you claimed a couple of days ago you are independent and post articles that criticize the right as much as the left? When will that start?

When you start looking back through the archives instead of expecting things to be handed to you on a silver platter.

 

[NHBandit]

Remember when you claimed a couple of days ago you are independent and post articles that criticize the right as much as the left? When will that start?

LoL.. All I have to do is search for threads started by RJC and there you are.... Coincidence ? Please take no offense because it's a joke but I'm going to name you and your 3 buddies "the 4 horsemen" because you show up almost immediately every time there's a thread started that's against the sad state of affairs going on in Washington. Like a band of superheros who would defend the president to the death even if they caught him sitting in a closet with Bin Laden looking at kiddie porn... And since this is the first episode of the "Chronicles of the Four Horsemen" I'm going to let you pick which one you want to be. I'd go with the Orange guy if it was me cause the eye patch is kind of cool but the choice is entirely up to you.

 

[Red James Cash]

Maybe they have an emergency signal like in the old batman series,a picture of obozo shined up into the sky with a spot light.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Remember when you claimed a couple of days ago you are independent and post articles that criticize the right as much as the left? When will that start?

What does this have to do with the original post.

I can vouch for the fact RJC has attacked both sides of the isle. He has had timeouts from me on them too.

We will NOT go quietly into the night!

 

[Native Floridian]

Bandit can i pick which one i am too! LOL!!!!

This may have been introduced by a dem but it is something under consideration in both red and blue states. it is the sign of the times. The old formula isn't working because fuel economy is up and miles driven is down. never underestimate the government's creativity when it comes to them sticking their hand in your pocket.

Creation of a tax based on mileage driven is something that's been on the table for at least a decade. A model for this tax already exists within the trucking industry. Interstate truckers must get a fuel permit from every state they operate in or drive through. They must pay a mileage based fuel tax to every state they drive through, whether they buy gas there or not. Why? Because trucks put wear and tear on the roads and somebody has to pay for the upkeep. case in point Delaware. Trucks traveling from New England to Maryland and points south need only use 10 miles of Delaware highways. No one has to buy diesel fuel there. yet the highway is one of the busiest truck corridors in the nation. Trucks using Delaware's roads pound the pavement into dust, just as they do everywhere else. This system allows Delaware not to get screwed by it's larger neighbors. it gives them the revenue to repair and rebuild their infrastructure.

This is not a political issue. it's an economic issue.

 

[Red James Cash]

Bandit can i pick which one i am too! LOL

NF,youre the horse they rode in on.

 

[NHBandit]

Bandit can i pick which one i am too! LOL!!!!

Of course you can. And Old Bookaroo left his sense of humor in his other pants and got upset that I posted this so it looks like you get to pick first. Like I told Uncle Matt, I'm kinda partial to the guy with the eye patch & the sword but that's just me.

 

[Native Floridian]

Yeah, he's pretty cool looking. But if they'd like, i'll let the other guys pick first!

BTW, thx for the info on the other great roads to ride in your area.

 

[Unclebuck257]

Bandit can i pick which one i am too! LOL!!!!

This may have been introduced by a dem but it is something under consideration in both red and blue states. it is the sign of the times. The old formula isn't working because fuel economy is up and miles driven is down. never underestimate the government's creativity in when it comes to them sticking their hand in your pocket.

Creation of a tax based on mileage driven is something that's been on the table for at least a decade. A model for this tax already exists within the trucking industry. Interstate truckers must get a fuel permit from every state they operate in or drive through. They must pay a mileage based fuel tax to every state they drive through, whether they buy gas there or not. Why? Because trucks put wear and tear on the roads and somebody has to pay for the upkeep. case in point Delaware. Trucks traveling from New England to Maryland and points south need only use 10 miles of Delaware highways. No one has to buy diesel fuel there. yet the highway is one of the busiest truck corridors in the nation. Trucks using Delaware's roads pound the pavement into dust, just as they do everywhere else. This system allows Delaware not to get screwed by it's larger neighbors. it gives them the revenue to repair and rebuild their infrastructure.

This is not a political issue. it's an economic issue.

NF,

Disagreeing with you on certain financial matters would be like disagreeing with a swimming instructor on how to swim , as you are drowning in the deep end of a swimming pool, but I don't believe this is one of those times or certain financial matters. Interestingly enough, I saw this Rep Earl Blumenauer make a complete ace of himself on Neil Cavuto's show two days ago when Cavuto asked him one simple question...Why do you in Congress need more money? What did you do with what we've already given you for the same purpose? Did you funnel it off to other projects, thus leaving you no money for what that money was originally intended? From there the tempo of the conversation got very heated and the good Congressman had no answers so he just got more and more angry at Cavuto who continued to ask him what happened to the original money Congree got for infrastructure upkeep and repairs. Of course, the good Congressman had no answers!

You are correct regarding truckers and their permits per each state. That I give you, but what happened to the money already gotten, via private vehicle gasoline taxes, for this very reason? AND, as Cavuto asked and never got an answer for, what is to guarantee us, the citizens, that you greedy politicians won't just get this additional money and just take it and use it for whatever else you want to, just like you've already done with the money you have already gotten and leave us in the same mess we are already in with our infrastructure?

Sorry NF, I don't buy your theory that it is/would be the same as the truckers permits.

 

[Native Floridian]

UB, I agree the money isn't well spent. And, i agree that the money is diverted elsewhere. My point was not about how the money is misspent, only that the government is unhappy there is less of it to misspend. And that the proposed plans are nothing new.

On misspending money: In NJ there was a plan to build a new rail commuter line from Hackensack to midtown Manhattan. This was a very controversial plan. At first, NY state, the city of NY and Amtrak were all on board ( no pun intended) . one by one everyone dropped out but NJ. To fund this multibillion dollar boondoggle Jersey and the feds would ante up. Jeresy's portion would come from massive toll hikes on NJ Turnpike and Garden State Parkway. The hikes were so excessive that there was a huge backlash. People enmasse saying they wouldn't use either highway. The state responded by coming up with a plan to toll every alternative route. And brashly said In your face we've gotcha. Well not so fast - the gov lost his reelection campaign. Still by that point phase one of the toll hikes had taken place.

The commuter rail line construction was started. Now dubbed the train to nowhere because when NY bowed out they said the line couldn't use Penn station. Penn Station is the major transportation hub in NYC. So the planners shortened the route by two blocks to end under a Macy's department store. So deep down was the tube that it would have taken fully five minutes of escalator riding to reach the surface ( Preppers take note).

Christie got into office looked at this and said wait a minute. i note that the state is on the hook for cost over runs and those over runs could equal 3 to 5 billion dollars. We ain't got that kinda dough. We want out. The Feds said no. Christie said go eff off we're out! the feds demanded $300,000,000 in spent costs back - Christie said cya in court. We faced off -the feds won we paid them back. But a small price to pay considering what we were going to be on the hook for.

Unfortunately, the story doesn't end there. At that point with no tunnel funding Christie should have rolled back the toll increases to previous levels. He didn't. He rolled future increases back partially. So, in effect the users of that highway, the turnpike and Parkway are paying to fund a project that will never be built.

That on a highway that when it was completed in 1952 was financed with 30 year bonds. The promise when it was built was that it would be toll free once those bonds were paid off. Instead, 61 years later, the tolls are higher than ever. Talk about diverted funds!

 

[Dave44]

UB, I agree the money isn't well spent. And, i agree that the money is diverted elsewhere. My point was not about how the money is misspent, only that the government is unhappy there is less of it to misspend. And that the proposed plans are nothing new.

On misspending money: In NJ there was a plan to build a new rail commuter line from Hackensack to midtown Manhattan. This was a very controversial plan. At first, NY state, the city of NY and Amtrak were all on board ( no pun intended) . one by one everyone dropped out but NJ. To fund this multibillion dollar boondoggle Jersey and the feds would ante up. Jeresy's portion would come from massive toll hikes on NJ Turnpike and Garden State Parkway. The hikes were so excessive that there was a huge backlash. People enmasse saying they wouldn't use either highway. The state responded by coming up with a plan to toll every alternative route. And brashly said In your face we've gotcha. Well not so fast - the gov lost his reelection campaign. Still by that point phase one of the toll hikes had taken place.

The commuter rail line construction was started. Now dubbed the train to nowhere because when NY bowed out they said the line couldn't use Penn station. Penn Station is the major transportation hub in NYC. So the planners shortened the route by two blocks to end under a Macy's department store. So deep down was the tube that it would have taken fully five minutes of escalator riding to reach the surface ( Preppers take note).

Christie got into office looked at this and said wait a minute. i note that the state is on the hook for cost over runs and those over runs could equal 3 to 5 billion dollars. We ain't got that kinda dough. We want out. The Feds said no. Christie said go eff off we're out! the feds demanded $300,000,000 in spent costs back - Christie said cya in court. We faced off -the feds won we paid them back. But a small price to pay considering what we were going to be on the hook for.

Unfortunately, the story doesn't end there. At that point with no tunnel funding Christie should have rolled back the toll increases to previous levels. He didn't. He rolled future increases back partially. So, in effect the users of that highway, the turnpike and Parkway are paying to fund a project that will never be built.

That on a highway that when it was completed in 1952 was financed with 30 year bonds. The promise when it was built was that it would be toll free once those bonds were paid off. Instead, 61 years later, the tolls are higher than ever. Talk about diverted funds!

Every toll road looks the same. It is exceptionally hard to get rid of them. Up until what, 15 or 20 years ago some politicians would end the tolls after the road was paid for. Now we have 1 new toll road near Richmond that no one uses, because it is expensive. A few years ago they decided that if noone is using it they have to increase the tolls, guess what,, less people used it and they raised the price again!

FYI,, when I need to save 10 or 15 minutes I use it,, but then,, I am a pass through entity. Someone else really pays it (just like mileage taxes for truckers and every other business tax). But it's a ghost town, the only people that can afford t and use it regularly is the state patrol.

 

[Native Floridian]

there are only 535 people in this country authorized to spend our money. However, when we look at deficits, the national debt, the misappropriations, the boondoggles and the rest of it they act as if it is not their fault. They point the finger of blame at each other, the president, the government departments, the military, congressman and senators past, the weather, and their dogs. it is anyone or anything but them. They do this because it works. The American people love a good story. So why not tell one that points the finger of blame eslewhere?

AS Will Rogers said "Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for"

 

[Unclebuck257]

Basically just another "MONEY GRAB" tax from the citizens, by those in power, so they will have money needed to fund their pet projects whether those projects are Dem or Repub backed.