Decorative plate

[NolanTheExplorer]

Just found this at a colonial home. Notice the silver plating and etched design.
Design sort of looks like a jar with flowers or something (maybe a horse).
Thanks!

 

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[NolanTheExplorer]

I'm thinking it might be a drum on front. Any chance this is a rev war breast plate?

 

[Dug]

I'm thinking it might be a drum on front. Any chance this is a rev war breast plate?

That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw it. Took a spin through "Insignia of Independence" and did not see anything but your plate resembles an Officer's Plate in shape and color.

What does the back look like?

 

[Silver Searcher]

I'm not familiar with Civil war items, but I believe some breastplates were oval, and that does look like a drum on the front, a picture of the back would perhaps help in this ID.

I see my post crossed with the same question as Dug.

SS

 

[NolanTheExplorer]

I never claim to know more than the next person, but the etching and style makes me think it predates the CW.
Here's a few more..

Thanks for your inputs fellas. It's a tough one since I do so little colonial hunting. I scored a few beauty little colonial buckles. One they call batwings I think. Anyways, I'll post them in the next few days.

Thanks again

DHD

 

[Silver Searcher]

I can't see were there were any attachments on the back, I wonder if it could be the back to a oval mirror.

SS

 

[Iron Patch]

Cool whatever it is, but I think you might have it upside down. My only guess on the design would be a mitre. (common design on livery buttons) There's also misc. crowned things, usually using a fairly unofficial looking crown. I have seen a couple plates in the past with livery type designs, so that is where my guess would be. Not sure exactly what they were for, or how they were used, but they do exist.


Here's a thread to show what I'm talking about. Note the 2nd one shown... ""Don Troiani has id'd it as a personal coat of arms plate.c.1790-1810"


http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/t...-war-crossbelt-thurs-absolutely-stunning.html

 

[NolanTheExplorer]

Thanks for the interesting info and insight Dug, SS, Iron Patch. Very helpful.
I know a middle belt plate w drum is nothing but wishful thinking. Keep on mind the other artifacts (attached). Crusader put the bottom buce at 1550-1650. Hopefully I'll find out something and update the group.
GL and HH



Colonial home in Virginia's tobacco country.

 

[DCMatt]

Cool whatever it is, but I think you might have it upside down. My only guess on the design would be a mitre. (common design on livery buttons) There's also misc. crowned things, usually using a fairly unofficial looking crown. I have seen a couple plates in the past with livery type designs, so that is where my guess would be. Not sure exactly what they were for, or how they were used, but they do exist.


Here's a thread to show what I'm talking about. Note the 2nd one shown... ""Don Troiani has id'd it as a personal coat of arms plate.c.1790-1810"


http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/t...-war-crossbelt-thurs-absolutely-stunning.html

IP is correct. You have it upside down. I definitely see the ducal crown with an animal emerging from it. Similar to this:



I also believe the age is mid to late 18th C.

Possibly a horse decoration?

Cool find, whatever it is.

DCMatt

 

[Iron Patch]

IP is correct. You have it upside down. I definitely see the ducal crown with an animal emerging from it. Similar to this:



I also believe the age is mid to late 18th C.

Possibly a horse decoration?

Cool find, whatever it is.

DCMatt

yep, I'd say. I ruled out miter seeing better pics on his other post, but I think you're on the right track with that.

 

[DCMatt]

Have a look at this.

 

[Iron Patch]

Have a look at this.

Yep, very clear there. Should be able to match it up.

 

[JamieD]

I know this is an old post but I found it through the more recent similar plate found.

Could the animal on your plate be a boar?

It’s a bit of a long shot but, if so, there looks to be a potential match up to the crest here:

Stafford Surname Meaning, Stafford Name History, Stafford Crests, Coat of Arms & Genealogy : MyFamilySilver.com

www.myfamilysilver.com

Jamie

 

[NolanTheExplorer]

Wow great find Jamie. It very well could...