CRHing and my new job.

fiatboy

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I've been working at the coin shop for three days now. It's insane how much I've learned. I can't possibly post all of the insights I've had, but here are a few:

1. There are more coin roll hunters than I realized, but many are interested in the state quarters or filling up books. Finding silver tends to be a secondary pursuit for most, but they are aware of which coins are silver.

2. Coins found in the wild, with few exceptions, won't really sell for too much. Forget about price guides! They overvalue common coins. If you want something special, have an LJ-style hoard of silver.

3. Armored truck services do indeed search coins, but only when they can get away with it.

4. With the exception of the state quarters, more people are buying than selling--especially Morgans and Peace dollars.

5. The saving of pre-82 Canadian nickels hasn't hit mainstream coin collecting yet, but I think it will in a few years. Lots of interest is gathering around these coins, but no buyers--yet.

6. Selling 90%ers will typically get you a better silver per dollar ratio than 40%ers.

7. Indian heads and wheaties are surprisingly strong.

8. Despite the occasional rumor to the contrary, dateless buffalo nickels are worth more than face.

If you have any questions about anything, just ask.

So far I really like the job. Basically, I sort coins, buy collections, chat with customers and dealers, fill orders, research coins, and watch everything like a hawk. It's pretty wild sometimes. For instance, the other day I had to sort BU Morgans and Walking Liberties. Actually getting to see and handle large quantities of Large Cents, St. Gaudens double eagles, Shield Nickels, and the like can really make my head spin. There's something surreal about moving around boxes of Mercs. The ancient coins and the foreign coins are pretty interesting, too. In some ways, it's really demystified coin collecting. In another way, I've really come to appreciate the purity of coin roll hunting.

Since I'm working full time at the coin shop, I haven't been able to coin hunt. I start work before the banks open and close up shop after they close. I'm sure you can figure out what I'll be doing when I finally get a day off!

Happy Hunting!
 

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Great Info. Heres a few questions:

Do you get a discount on buying coins at the store you work at? First dibs on coins coming in?

Do you get a commision on large sales?

What do you do if you put a finger print on a rare coin? Whats the tricks on cleaning them without the coins looking like they have been cleaned?

Do you get any tips on when silver may go up or down? ;D

The job does sound interesting, but not sure if I would want to work at a coin store full time. It is fun to see all the coins Im sure and you will learn alot. Keep us posted on anything interesting.
 

That job sounds like so much fun FB. Thanks for the tidbits. I am sure you will be asked many questions from folks in here.

I have a few questions for now.

1. Have you heard anything about values of circulated proofs? Are they worth anything other than face value since most are not in mint condition?

2. What about these post 2001 halves we are keeping?

3. Pre 82 cents....worth keeping?
 

Sounds like you're getting desensitized!
Don't sort those coins with sticky fingers!
 

Thanks for the insight FB.

Keep the info coming, including the questions already asked, and have fun.
 

Ahhhh!!! Today was crazy. I had to grade over 900 Ikes. But I really can't complain. It's simply fun being around coins all day. Anyway....

Do you get a discount on buying coins at the store you work at? First dibs on coins coming in?

I do not get a discount on coins :'( (although I do get one on jewelry). I do indeed get first dibs on coins coming in, but honestly, there are too many choices. I've always been interested in the higher end coins like gold and platinum, but that's a very different kind of collecting. That kind of paradigm is what I primarily deal with, which I love, but it has little to do with coin hunting. The customers that come in to sell, however, are sometimes coin hunters, and talking to them is by far the most thrilling part of work. I like hearing their coin hunting stories. It's amazing. Probably my most important job duty is just lending an ear. Old folks, especially, love to tell stories about collecting long ago, and I'm more than happy to listen. I fully realize now how the pleasure of coin roll hunting comes from the hunt. There is no thrill of the hunt when I'm standing in a vault full of barbers, morgans, and trimes.


Do you get a commision on large sales?

Depends on the kind of sale, but generally, yes.


What do you do if you put a finger print on a rare coin? Whats the tricks on cleaning them without the coins looking like they have been cleaned?

Most of the rare coins have been professionally graded and encapsulated, so I don't have to worry about touching them. For the few that aren't, I just try to be as careful as possible. Gloves and mats are available if I need them, but really, you'd probably be surprised how cavalier some dealers are when handling their exceptionally rare coins. As a general rule of them, one should avoid handling them whenever possible, of course. I always try to be mindful of my surroundings and my body, lest I bump into anything. I also make sure I know where everyone else is and there is no chance they might bump into me. I hold the coin over a soft, scratch-free jewelers mat in case I drop it. Oh yeah, and I wash my hands.

What would I do if I got a fingerprint on a coin? Freak out. haha.

I haven't tried it, but I guess there is a way to clean gold and silver coins, including proofs, with ammonia. You dip it for a few seconds and it should remove fingerprints. Then wash is with the mildest soap and water you can find, and don't touch the surfaces at any point. Practice on some junk coins first, if you do this, cause I have no idea how it actually works.


Do you get any tips on when silver may go up or down?

Yes, I know a month in advance what the price will be. Just kidding. You guys and gals know as much as I do.


1. Have you heard anything about values of circulated proofs? Are they worth anything other than face value since most are not in mint condition?

99% of the time, we don't buy circulated proofs. However, I believe that if someone could perfect a way to clean fingerprints off of the really nice ones---the ones with few scratches and bag marks---then there might be a market for them---a lesser premium than uncirculated proofs, but perhaps more than face.


2. What about these post 2001 halves we are keeping?

I haven't heard a thing about these, but I will let you know when I do. Chances are, a market will develop in the future, but as yet, I've heard nothing either way.


3. Pre 82 cents....worth keeping?

This question has really divided a lot of dealers. Most don't bother to save them, but a few do. Each side thinks the other is crazy. In the future, I do see a market for pre-82s pennies (and post 2001 halves, and pre-82 Canadian nickels, and U.S. nickels), but I think most people are too stuck in their ways to see the potential. I think it'll be a while, though. Personally, I save the ones that are not dirty and somewhat shiny. I have one box full, but that's it. I don't plan to save that many---maybe another box or two. At work, I have heard nothing that suggests that they're actually worth saving, but neither have I heard anything that suggests that they're not worth savings. In other words, the jury's still out.


Thanks for reading everyone. I know this was a long post. And as always, happy hunting!!
 

Thanks for the feedback FB. Very helpful.

I think I would enjoy working at a coin shop. Good luck to you and keep sending those tidbits our way.
 

Next week my boss will teach me how to clean proofs.

A certain member of this forum stopped by to say hello. haha. :) Nice to meet you!

I'm beginning to think that the recent, low-mintage halves are worth saving. Two people today came in today to purchase some.

The 1970 halves seem undervalued. (No surprise to the TN coin hunters!) We don't sell them for that much more than other halves, but our supply of them is dramatically smaller.

Those Whitman folders are popular!

Saturday I finally have a day off. And I need it.
 

fiatboy said:
Next week my boss will teach me how to clean proofs.

A certain member of this forum stopped by to say hello. haha. :) Nice to meet you!

I'm beginning to think that the recent, low-mintage halves are worth saving. Two people today came in today to purchase some.

The 1970 halves seem undervalued. (No surprise to the TN coin hunters!) We don't sell them for that much more than other halves, but our supply of them is dramatically smaller.

Those Whitman folders are popular!

Saturday I finally have a day off. And I need it.
"Worth saving" is definitely a relative term.Does your boss even offer to buy them from customers or just have them available to sell to the occasional buyer trying to fill a slot in his whitman book?

It basically boils down to how much cash one has to be able to hold on to them for how many years down the road.

And even after so many years how much will they be worth?

They are not going to disappear EVER as they have no intrinsic value and they never will circulate so there will always be the amount minted hanging around somewhere,in nice condition.

What do you guys charge for them?$.75-$.85?The dealers around me have some for people who want one of each date for their collection but they won't buy them from people who walk in to sell :'(.

How much do you guys charge for 70-D's?The reason your supply is probably smaller on them is because you would get large amounts of 65-69 throughout the week for melt purposes and the 70's would come in less frequently.However if he had a large market for them he could have as many as he could sell,within a few business days from one of the huge nationwide suppliers :o.

Good luck on your first day off ;D.
 

"Worth saving" is definitely a relative term.Does your boss even offer to buy them from customers or just have them available to sell to the occasional buyer trying to fill a slot in his whitman book?
Excellent point. We only buy them at BU, with the express intention of selling them later.

It basically boils down to how much cash one has to be able to hold on to them for how many years down the road.

And even after so many years how much will they be worth?
Your guess is as good as mine. I should have prefaced my statement that they're "worth saving" by saying, "Monetarily, all things being and remaining equal, assuming that you enjoy coin roll hunting and want to save some coins that, based upon their low mintages, have more speculative potential than most others, and you don't mind saving them indefinitely..." Personally, I don't save anything cupro-nickel.

What do you guys charge for them?$.75-$.85?The dealers around me have some for people who want one of each date for their collection but they won't buy them from people who walk in to sell .

How much do you guys charge for 70-D's?The reason your supply is probably smaller on them is because you would get large amounts of 65-69 throughout the week for melt purposes and the 70's would come in less frequently.However if he had a large market for them he could have as many as he could sell,within a few business days from one of the huge nationwide suppliers .

I don't know exact prices, nor do I want to give any exact quotes. I think you actually have more insight here than I do. All of your points make perfect sense after what I've seen so far. Bullion is my specialty, but when it comes to pure numismatics, I'm still a real neophyte. However, if there were a large market for 1970 halves, i.e. across-the-board collector intererst, wouldn't the nationwide suppliers raise prices, thus affecting the entire market? Do I even know what I'm talking about here? I'm beginning to realize that I have zero comprehension of how the numismatic market functions.
 

fiatboy said:
"Worth saving" is definitely a relative term.Does your boss even offer to buy them from customers or just have them available to sell to the occasional buyer trying to fill a slot in his whitman book?
Excellent point. We only buy them at BU, with the express intention of selling them later.

I know your just getting started at the shop and still learning,but in your novice opinion,would you say that you or your boss would purchase '02-'07 halves found in rolls/boxes,considering the amount of bag marks/nicks/damage that occur with such rough handling?In other words would your shop's consideration of "BU" include halves with such defects?





It basically boils down to how much cash one has to be able to hold on to them for how many years down the road.

And even after so many years how much will they be worth?
Your guess is as good as mine. I should have prefaced my statement that they're "worth saving" by saying, "Monetarily, all things being and remaining equal, assuming that you enjoy coin roll hunting and want to save some coins that, based upon their low mintages, have more speculative potential than most others, and you don't mind saving them indefinitely..." Personally, I don't save anything cupro-nickel.

Very well said!I concur with not saving anything cupro-nickel,I completed my JFK whitman folder years ago with nearly flawless coins,back when I was young and thought it "would be worth something someday",I have since realized that it won't be in my lifetime and don't save anymore now(or for many years).I don't get any satisfaction of having circulated proofs hanging around and truthfully don't have the patience/desire to search for errors.






What do you guys charge for them?$.75-$.85?The dealers around me have some for people who want one of each date for their collection but they won't buy them from people who walk in to sell .

How much do you guys charge for 70-D's?The reason your supply is probably smaller on them is because you would get large amounts of 65-69 throughout the week for melt purposes and the 70's would come in less frequently.However if he had a large market for them he could have as many as he could sell,within a few business days from one of the huge nationwide suppliers .

I don't know exact prices, nor do I want to give any exact quotes. I think you actually have more insight here than I do. All of your points make perfect sense after what I've seen so far. Bullion is my specialty, but when it comes to pure numismatics, I'm still a real neophyte.


I didn't mean to put you in a spot asking the prices of the '02-'07 halves but I figured that since they weren't tied to bullion(fluctuating) that you could give the readers of this site some idea of the retail sales value of these coins they hold so dear.I wouldn't want you in trouble over a hobby.

However, if there were a large market for 1970 halves, i.e. across-the-board collector intererst, wouldn't the nationwide suppliers raise prices, thus affecting the entire market? Do I even know what I'm talking about here? I'm beginning to realize that I have zero comprehension of how the numismatic market functions.
No,your question makes sense.That's basically what I meant,that there isn't a big collector interest in the 70-D's and that is why the price may seem a little low to you,in respect to the other silver halves.
 

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