Couple questions about gold coins and full tones

[Gridwalker306]

I recently got what I thought was going to be a killer spot mowed and cleaned up. I have found three IH cents, a barber quarter, and a couple decent odds and ends. However, I figured this very large spot would be absolutely loaded with coins considering the history. The grass has been waist deep since the 1940's, so I don't think it's been hunted. I have dug at least 100 very old (circa1900) shotgun shells here...signals someone wouldn't pass up. Also, most finds are quite deep, 8-10+ inches. I am disappointed that there aren't more good coin finds amongst this trashy site.

I have been using the un-modified Deus Fast program with tracking GB. Im going to try Full Tones for the first time, unless someone has a better program to try in this trashy situation.

I'm also wondering about gold coins VDI. This spot is attached to a spot I have dug nearly 50 silvers, many of them 1880's-1920's. I figure there might be a gold coin in there somewhere, but I'm curious on their VDI. I have found a chart, but can't find one including VDI on various denomination gold coins. Anybody have numbers on these?

I'm loving the Deus, just want to maximize my chances at the goods.

 

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[Rawhide]

Dont know about the Dues, but because gold comes in different Karats I get get a wide range of numbers for gold. You want gold Id say dig all targets.

 

[ggossage]

I use full tones exclusively. I'm with Casca; you'll have to dig it all if you have hopes of finding a gold coin. The Deus VDI is based not only upon metal composition, but size of target as well. Knowing that, you'll probably find that a small American $1 gold coin will have a lower VDI based more on its gold content than the size of the coin, but as increasing denominations also equate to larger coin sizes, the VDI should increase because the VDI calculation takes coin size into consideration--that's why a large aluminum token can and does ring up in the higher VDI range despite its low-conductive metal content. All that said, if the majority of your targets are at the depth you mentioned, you can't expect to trust the VDI anyway. Nickels for example often will read higher (like a penny) the deeper they are. And since you're using Deus Fast at reactivity 3, you're not getting near the depth you could be getting with your coil, which would make target ID at depth even more unreliable. Try experimenting with full tones, 12K, reactivity 1 or 0 (maintain silencer at -1); that should make the deep targets pop a little more.

 

[CoinandRelicMan]

I've had shotgun shells mask silver quarters before with large coils. Make sure to recheck area good after cleaning out them shells.... gl

 

[Gridwalker306]

ggossage, I will be able to get out later today, I will give it a shot. Thanks much

 

[Gridwalker306]

Coinandrelicman, those dang shells sound so good. I have cleared so much junk out of there, hopefully playing with the full tones will open the site up a bit

 

[Gridwalker306]

Getting ready to go. Should I take a preset and modify it to full tones as well as the adjustments recommended by ggossage? I don't want to modify Deus Fast, I do like the program and don't want to screw it up.

 

[ggossage]

You can't permanently alter any of the preset programs--when you turn off your machine and on again, the preset returns to its default. So, make changes to any one of the preset programs and then save it as a custom program. Your preset should be unchanged...but if it has changed, just change it back. Once you're out there, you'll find it's very easy. Of course, you can make the changes on the remote before you even leave the house. Happy Hunting!

 

[Gridwalker306]

Yes, just got the program all set up thanks. I used the setup i found in another thread here, the only thing different I noticed is that it recommended 8kh instead on the 12kh you mentioned. I will try both. Ok...let's see if this baby works!

 

[Gridwalker306]

Well, I survived the full tones haha. Anybody interested in trying it out, I'd recommend giving it a shot at a location that's not full of junk until you get comfortable with it.

After a bust at the junky spot, I went to the old school and managed to find a few pennies. They were deep, and in areas I hit hard in the past. Gonna have to keep at it, it's bizarre!

 

[sleepyjim]

Here is the link to my gold coin find here in Arizona I posted here a ways back;
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/deus/431377-check-out-my-peso-i-dug-today.html

Jim

 

[Gridwalker306]

Here is the link to my gold coin find here in Arizona I posted here a ways back;
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/deus/431377-check-out-my-peso-i-dug-today.html

Jim

Thanks Jim, that is one killer coin! You said the VDI was 51...what program were you using?

 

[Pointman]

I would imagine gold would run in the 60s or a little lower. I have been digging everything that gives a decent signal higher than iron. I dig a lot of trash, but I have found a lot of neat items that I would have missed if I was more picky. If you get a consistent signal in two directions, I wouldn't pass them up.

 

[Gridwalker306]

I would imagine gold would run in the 60s or a little lower. I have been digging everything that gives a decent signal higher than iron. I dig a lot of trash, but I have found a lot of neat items that I would have missed if I was more picky. If you get a consistent signal in two directions, I wouldn't pass them up.

I'm really getting into digging the lower signals, the nice coin high tones are few and far between in my areas of hunting. I'm averaging one coin per hour these days--and most of those are modern clad. I need some new locations, but I still hit all my old spots digging the lower signals. So far nothing great has popped up. June has been brutal.

I'll just keep playing with the full tones, and digging everything...sooner or later the goods will reveal themselves.

 

[ggossage]

I'm really getting into digging the lower signals, the nice coin high tones are few and far between in my areas of hunting. I'm averaging one coin per hour these days--and most of those are modern clad. I need some new locations, but I still hit all my old spots digging the lower signals. So far nothing great has popped up. June has been brutal.

I'll just keep playing with the full tones, and digging everything...sooner or later the goods will reveal themselves.

Great attidute J.Cache!

 

[n3umw]

4k	8k	12k	18k	XP Deus TIDs
51	66	74	81	$5 Gold Half Eagle Indian Head
51	65	73	80	1901 $5 Gold Liberty Head
34	42	49	57	1858 $1 GOLD
			72	2 1/2 dollar Indian gold piece
76	85	89	91	1752 George Half Penny
72	83	86	90	Spanish Silver Reale, 1752

 

[vferrari]

n3 - You need to get an hf coil and give us some additonal TIDs at the high freqs. Thanks for the chart.

 

[erte]

at 18k whats the tid on pulltab and bottlecaps?

 

[1942 merc]

Try CD pitch program .

 

[Phishfarmer]

I'm agreeing with Pointman. Dig all beyond iron and iffy iron/non ferrous too. Your finds have been deep. The deeper you detect the lower the resolution/discrimination. Good luck. We all dig trash it's a part of the game.