Couple old guns

[Older The Better]

I don’t think I’ve ever been up in this thread hope I’m in the right place, I was offered a pair of old guns, by a lady who I think wanted them gone, but her husband wanted to think about it, I took some pictures to see what I could find but I’m not finding a lot of info. These two are beat up and rusted, parts of the stocks are zip tied. One is even missing a firing pin. I like them for old wall hangers with character, she was going to let me have them but I think he thinks there may be value I’d be happy to make a small offer but I’d like to know what would be reasonable… I only took pictures of any stampings not the whole guns sorry. They look like the same gun each has different marks, both are break over shotguns. I think they are stevens but I’m finding conflicting information about dates and possible models and such

Here are the pictures I took, if anyone knows anything about these guns that would be awesome.
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[vonfatman]

Great wall-hangers!

vfm

 

[Blackfoot58]

I can’t tell enough to give a value. They’ve definitely been around.

 

[ToddsPoint]

I’d give $10 ea. and then turn them in to the police when they have a gun buy deal where they give you $100 for any gun. Then use the $200 to buy a decent gun.

 

[tamrock]

Massachusetts Arms which became Steven's. I had a Steven's like those. Commemorating the World's Fair might give a date to when it was made. I'm thinking the Chicago 1933-34. They've definitely been put away in the barn for a long.

Massachusetts Arms Company - Wikipedia

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[Older The Better]

I found a few more nuggets, seems they were like a hardware store/sears gun.

While I’m a different corner of the state these guns are in Kansas so the atchison connection would make sense. Thanks for the replies so far, that’s a good idea with the police auction but I’d be keeping these, old rusty and full of scars from many years is kinda my style.

 

[releventchair]

They're worth saving to me , but that's about it.
An auction I watch off and on here in the midwest there are occasional oldies in rough condition with low collector value based on rarity or model or popularity that fetch a surprising amount . To me anyways.
It's likely folks buying wall hangers too. Combined with competition from auction they sell 60-90 bucks tops maybe for averages.
Not as rough as your examples. I didn't go back and check the roughest . And there were a couple to compete with yours a while back..

 

[dognose]

interesting guns. They did not have any memory of how they came to have them?

 

[Older The Better]

They are an older couple and they said they were in his mothers closet and that was all she knew. I sent her the info I could find and it sounds like she would be happy to let them go but he’s not sure. Said something along the lines of it may be some time but I hope you get them. I don’t want to be pushy so I’ll just have to see, at any rate it was fun to look into them.

 

[detectorcowboy]

What gets me is these states like MA, CT, NY, RI, Basically New England in general are so anti-2A but that's where all the US gun manufacturing plants are locate?
What-up with that?

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Older The Better - You sound like a knowledgeable firearms collector. I'm sure at the right time you'll assist the owners with any necessary transfer paperwork.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

[ToddsPoint]

What gets me is these states like MA, CT, NY, RI, Basically New England in general are so anti-2A but that's where all the US gun manufacturing plants are locate?
What-up with that?

Smith and Wesson is moving from MA to TN. I think New England became the gun making center because there was capital and plenty of good machinists there.

 

[pepperj]

Smith and Wesson is moving from MA to TN.

Tn will certainly appreciate 750 new jobs plus boost of construction jobs, and the general economy of the area.
Certainly a win-win

 

[deltamann]

My first weapon I got was a single shot Stevens 12 GA shotgun I got for $20 used in 1975.

I still have it, great weapon and got me many a rabbit and many a duck for supper.

You cant go wrong buying any type of gun whether its a wall hanger or functional tool.

 

[newnan man]

I don't think they would be worth much in the condition they are in. They are not super old guns. Hanging on a fireplace mantle or similar would be nice.

 

[Flipperfla]

I don’t think I’ve ever been up in this thread hope I’m in the right place, I was offered a pair of old guns, by a lady who I think wanted them gone, but her husband wanted to think about it, I took some pictures to see what I could find but I’m not finding a lot of info. These two are beat up and rusted, parts of the stocks are zip tied. One is even missing a firing pin. I like them for old wall hangers with character, she was going to let me have them but I think he thinks there may be value I’d be happy to make a small offer but I’d like to know what would be reasonable… I only took pictures of any stampings not the whole guns sorry. They look like the same gun each has different marks, both are break over shotguns. I think they are stevens but I’m finding conflicting information about dates and possible models and such

Here are the pictures I took, if anyone knows anything about these guns that would be awesome.
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Stevens also manufactured firearms for the military. Here is an example of a John Browning designed Stevens. The 520-30. There were 2 models the Riot Gun and the Trench gun, the trench gun had a heat shield over the barrel and a bayonet mount. In the war they called them “Trench Brooms or Sweepers” they were so nasty the Germans tried to get then outlawed, that sort of says a lot considering they introduced the flame thrower. The cool feature of this gun it has a trigger disconnect so you pull and hold the trigger in and pump away, also known as slam firing. This thing can throw a lot of lead real fast.
This version in the pix is the “Riot Gun” issued to Guards and Federal Pens, no heat shield and bayonet mount. Whoever blued it really knew their stuff.
Another great feature is that it is a takedown, you turn and unscrew the tube and it slides apart, really impressive machine work, great for backpacking.