Counterfits

[Gunrunner61]

This coin was found in the mid to late ninties, On todays forum there talking about spanish counterfits.
And after looking I believe that mine is also, thanks for looking and the call is Ya'lls. HH

P.S. It say's that I have already posted this, But I could'nt find it. so if I doubled this Im sorry.

 

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[Hill Billy]

http://www.counterfeitcoins.com/marc-8reales/Counterfeit-Spanish-Milled-Dollars.html

Looks like a pewter based coin plated in silver.
Nice find!

HB

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Interesting. I have never seen one. Looks like a good heavy silver plate.

 

[Gunrunner61]

I do know alittle about the site where it was found, Gen. Andrew Pickens built his home on a small hill over looking the Cherokee village of Tomassee, The house was bult in 1802 I think, and burned down in 1822 or so. It set only about 2 miles from Oconee Station, A trading post Built by the British To guard aginst Indians on the frontier, one of a line of forts that streched from Loudon tenn. Back to Oconee. He was the only person who I
would think to have that kind of money around there, And as you can tell the reverse is blackened from a fire. There is a word or name scrached into the obverse side....I'll try to post a better picture of it. Maybe some one can help make it out. I was told years ago that if the name could be linked to Pickens or his family that it would increase the value of the coin......Not that I would ever sale it, nothing of what I find will ever be sold by me....After I'm gone my kids.......Well that may be a different story, Everyone have a good and safe Day.
HH
Greg

 

[Mac232]

Nice pictures . I have seen this coin in person and there is no doubt in my mind it is a counter-fit . Hill Billy , this is the one I told you about in the chat room one day .

 

[Hill Billy]

Nice pictures . I have seen this coin in person and there is no doubt in my mind it is a counter-fit . Hill Billy , this is the one I told you about in the chat room one day .

Thanks for getting it posted , and I agree, it looks like a cft.

HB

 

[Monty]

I don't know if it is real or not, but many years ago they use to actually cut up silver coins and refer to the pieces as "bits", like " Two bits, four bits , six bits a dollar" in the old school cheer. They were used as real currency because of a shortage of coins.
Monty

 

[Michigan Badger]

I've bought and sold hundreds of Spanish coins and haven't yet seen a fake other than an obvious one Whites gave me with a new detector back in 1968. It was a big Pillar Dollar made of something like pot metal and I wish I still had it.

The Spanish themselves were masters of fraud. In the 16th century they diluted good silver cobs with a junk metal we call platinum today. Well, back then they thought that grayish white metal was worthless.

There are tons of genuine copper cobs out there that are called fakes because the aged patina was removed. Once a maravedis coin or cob has been cleaned it's considered fake even if the expert judged it genuine before you cleaned it. He could even watch you clean it and once cleaned it's fake (even though it really isn't).

I just love our nuts numismatist world.