🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Counterfeit or rare??

[fishstick]

Howdy all, just dug this coin today at an old homesite and puzzled. Why is this 1835 Mexican 8R not silver. I'm thinking it's bronze and haven't had much luck finding any others. What's y'all's thgts??

 

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[Red-Coat]

There's a bronze one, also dated 1835, that was discussed on the CoinTalk site at the link below.

Apparently, although there are a lot of bronze fakes that are silver plated, authentic bronze examples do exist:

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/help-1835-cap-rays-8-reales.301136/

Mexico FIRST REPUBLIC 8 Reales KM 377.13 Prices & Values | NGC

Check out the World Price Guide on NGCcoin.com for Mexico FIRST REPUBLIC 8 Reales values. It's easy-to-use, online and free!

www.ngccoin.com

 

[fishstick]

Thx RC Is there a way to determine one from the other?

 

[Oldrvrrat57]

One cool find! Looks as though it may have been siver washed at one time.

 

[Red-Coat]

Thx RC Is there a way to determine one from the other?

Sorry, that I don't know.

 

[fishstick]

Sorry, that I don't know.

Darn it

 

[pepperj]

Very cool recovery, have you scale to weigh it?

It seems from what I have read that there was a lot of counterfeits in either debased silver from .250 and up in fineness.
There was also copper content that would a bronze alloy which would weigh heavier, brass will be lighter.
It was stated that Monel alloy didn't come into play until 1901
There was brass which were plated with zinc sulphide to give them a silver look also.

Some interesting reading on the weights and different theories of the original/counterfiet dies that were used in minting.

1834 Go Pj 8 Reales CCc? - Coin Community Forum

1834 Go Pj 8 Reales CCc? - Coin Community Forum

www.coincommunity.com

 

[fishstick]

Great info Pep!!!!! It's 20.3 grams which I thgt was odd, also there is no sign of a silver look to it.

 

[Mackaydon]

If authentic, it should weigh 27 grams; yours is fake.
The mint shown is 'Go' designating Guanajuato.
Don in SoCal