Coshocton flint platter

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Nice piece!

The first artifact I ever found (over 40 years ago as a child) was a used-up Coshocton Kirk point. I remember at the time being exited at finding an artifact that might be several hundred years old; it was only years later that I learned the correct age was several thousand years. What is fascinating is that I found the piece in suburban Philadelphia - over 400 miles away from the source for Coshocton flint in Ohio. And unlike Rhyolite, which travelled hundreds of miles through the Susquehanna River system from its source near Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, there are no helpful waterways to assist in transporting Coshocton flint from its source in Ohio to the Philadelphia area. Indeed, it had to be trekked over the Appalachians to arrive here. Pretty amazing travels for a piece of flint that was fashioned into an artifact approximately 8000 years ago.

artorius
 

Way nice !!! :icon_thumleft:

It's amazing how far Coshocton chert travelled in Paleo/Early Archaic times, and how much of it there is far from its source.

I suspect it came east to the Allegheny, up it, and across to the West Branch of the Susquehanna, going south and east from there. It is not unusual to find it, as Artorius noted, in south central and southeastern Penna. The east-west range of Flintridge is much more restricted, stopping at Lock Haven.

Nice item again, Thirty7 ! Trade blank, IMO.
 

Ok I am still trying to learn the materials thirty7. What is its source and why do I not see that here or is it here and I am not seeing recognising it??. Good post and item.
TnMtns
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I have not seen rain like what we are getting in a long time. I had 7 inches last night in two hours
 

TnMountains said:
Ok I am still trying to learn the materials thirty7. What is its source and why do I not see that here or is it here and I am not seeing recognising it??. Good post and item.
TnMtns
P.s
I have not seen rain like what we are getting in a long time. I had 7 inches last night in two hours

Hey Tn, the source of Coshocton flint is in Coshocton, Ohio. Coshocton was a favorite of all cultures and was the most widely used of all Ohio lithics. We got some of that rain last night, didn't get hammered like you , but I'm sure it dusted off some flint.

Appreciate the comments folks, and thanks for adding interesting info and insight to the post.
 

artorius said:
Nice piece!

The first artifact I ever found (over 40 years ago as a child) was a used-up Coshocton Kirk point. I remember at the time being exited at finding an artifact that might be several hundred years old; it was only years later that I learned the correct age was several thousand years. What is fascinating is that I found the piece in suburban Philadelphia - over 400 miles away from the source for Coshocton flint in Ohio. And unlike Rhyolite, which travelled hundreds of miles through the Susquehanna River system from its source near Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, there are no helpful waterways to assist in transporting Coshocton flint from its source in Ohio to the Philadelphia area. Indeed, it had to be trekked over the Appalachians to arrive here. Pretty amazing travels for a piece of flint that was fashioned into an artifact approximately 8000 years ago.

artorius

It really is amazing how far some of these lithics traveled. It somewhat proves the value of the material and the high esteem connected. That's what is so exciting to me about hunting in WV, the major river systems that cross the state brought in all kinds of exotic lithic materials from the north, west, east, and south. You're gonna find some dark Kanawha, but you could also find some ridge, cosh, carter cave, zaleski, etc.

Thanks artorius, really enjoyed your insightful paragraph.
 

thirty7 said:
TnMountains said:
Ok I am still trying to learn the materials thirty7. What is its source and why do I not see that here or is it here and I am not seeing recognising it??. Good post and item.
TnMtns
P.s
I have not seen rain like what we are getting in a long time. I had 7 inches last night in two hours

Hey Tn, the source of Coshocton flint is in Coshocton, Ohio. Coshocton was a favorite of all cultures and was the most widely used of all Ohio lithics. We got some of that rain last night, didn't get hammered like you , but I'm sure it dusted off some flint.

Appreciate the comments folks, and thanks for adding interesting info and insight to the post.
just to add a little info,coshocton is sometimes refered to as upper mercer flint.i also suspect that it made its way south down the Muskingham river (which is in the heart of coshocton county)the Muskingham river dumps into the Ohio river at Marrietta Ohio,which is directly across the Ohio from Parkersburg WV.It then could have made its way in all directions once it got to the Ohio river.Good Post 37 :thumbsup:
 

jeff a said:
keep your eye out for more in that area ,looks like a hopewell north blade, nice find
i concur,only thing with that is the hopewell culture seemed to prefer flintridge for north blades,but i think jeff a is on point,there may be a cache of those laying nearby where you found that one. :dontknow:
 

greg-rocks said:
thirty7 said:
TnMountains said:
Ok I am still trying to learn the materials thirty7. What is its source and why do I not see that here or is it here and I am not seeing recognising it??. Good post and item.
TnMtns
P.s
I have not seen rain like what we are getting in a long time. I had 7 inches last night in two hours

Hey Tn, the source of Coshocton flint is in Coshocton, Ohio. Coshocton was a favorite of all cultures and was the most widely used of all Ohio lithics. We got some of that rain last night, didn't get hammered like you , but I'm sure it dusted off some flint.

Appreciate the comments folks, and thanks for adding interesting info and insight to the post.
just to add a little info,coshocton is sometimes refered to as upper mercer flint.i also suspect that it made its way south down the Muskingham river (which is in the heart of coshocton county)the Muskingham river dumps into the Ohio river at Marrietta Ohio,which is directly across the Ohio from Parkersburg WV.It then could have made its way in all directions once it got to the Ohio river.Good Post 37 :thumbsup:

I'm really glad you brought this up Greg. I get them confused all the time, I thought they were two different types of flint. I always thought they were very similar but mercer was darker in color and a higher grade of flint. Thanks for sorting this out for me, now I need to get some bigger frames.
 

yea the confusion is just a name thing, the upper mercer quarrys are in warsaw,ohio which is in coshocton county,but it gets called coshocton.kind of like flintridge is actually vanport chert.it is believed that coshocton flint was so popular with paleo and early archaic peoples because it is very easy to knapp and of high quality.also one more little tidbit of info,did you know that the second most reported clovis finds in all of n.america come out of coshocton county,kind of interesting.I use to hunt there alot as a kid and teenager with my uncle(who got me collecting)and we would go for a whole weekend and i swear i would come home with 20-30 real good headz everytime,I s h i t you not.HH
 

Nice piece! The main outcropings are in Coshocton, Muskingum, Licking,Perry & Hocking counties.
 

pickaway said:
Nice piece! The main outcropings are in Coshocton, Muskingum, Licking,Perry & Hocking counties.
we have outcropings of it up here in my parts that go east into pa,there is a local varient with alot of fossil inclusions ,probably alot more buried under glacial till that we dont know of
 

greg rocks, there are still some places like that in warsaw and nellie,i took my son down there last year ,we came home with a 2 gallon bucket full of quarrie blanks,one field we hunted someone else already hit pretty good but they left all the broken points ,bladeletts and scrapers at the ends of the corn rows, made for easy hunting that day ,all we did was hunted the edges of the field and filled our pockets
 

jeff a said:
greg rocks, there are still some places like that in warsaw and nellie,i took my son down there last year ,we came home with a 2 gallon bucket full of quarrie blanks,one field we hunted someone else already hit pretty good but they left all the broken points ,bladeletts and scrapers at the ends of the corn rows, made for easy hunting that day ,all we did was hunted the edges of the field and filled our pockets


That sounds familiar Jeff. I've come across more than a few piles of worked flint, pulled some decent flake tools, scrapers, and once somebody was kind enough to leave me a paleo uniface knife. I couldn't believe they left it there. I usually pick up those piles and throw them in the middle of the creek, they're a sure way to attract competition.
 

jeff a said:
greg rocks, there are still some places like that in warsaw and nellie,i took my son down there last year ,we came home with a 2 gallon bucket full of quarrie blanks,one field we hunted someone else already hit pretty good but they left all the broken points ,bladeletts and scrapers at the ends of the corn rows, made for easy hunting that day ,all we did was hunted the edges of the field and filled our pockets
that is good to know,i havent been out that way in a long time.heck its only an hour and 15 minutes from here.i really need to go door knocking up that way.thats pretty cool that someone made the hunting easy for you. :thumbsup:
 

greg-rocks said:
yea the confusion is just a name thing, the upper mercer quarrys are in warsaw,ohio which is in coshocton county,but it gets called coshocton.kind of like flintridge is actually vanport chert.it is believed that coshocton flint was so popular with paleo and early archaic peoples because it is very easy to knapp and of high quality.also one more little tidbit of info,did you know that the second most reported clovis finds in all of n.america come out of coshocton county,kind of interesting.I use to hunt there alot as a kid and teenager with my uncle(who got me collecting)and we would go for a whole weekend and i swear i would come home with 20-30 real good headz everytime,I s h i t you not.HH

I did read, somewhere, that there have been more coshocton paleo pieces found / recorded than of any other material. They had the motherload of lithic materials in Oh, factories of flint...good stuff.
 

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