Copper Query

GOLDandSilver

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Hi, this is really my first post here regarding a find, mostly due to shame (despite my hopeful sounding handle) ;D I have been reading here for YEARS but have had little time to get out with my detector, and, when I do...well let's just say I never thought clad was that photogenic. So I've kept my secret and lived vicariously via everyone else's finds.

I realize I am breaking a cardinal rule here by posting a query without a photo however when I came down here (to the Topsail) I believed that once again I'd find nothing of interest so I kindly left the small point and shoot at home and brought my pro camera which means that later on today I will have to take the time to set up somehow to get the right pics, change them from RAW to JPG...well you see.

In any case, as boring as my preamble was, I have a most interesting query....is there such a thing as Copper ingots? I was detecting along yesterday mostly hoping to burn off my crab melt sandwich than even daring to hope I'd find anything more than CLAD (I come every year, I've brought my DFX every year I had it, I find clad bits every year, not even enough to buy beer!!! and this in Pirate land) and sure enough I walked a good half mile without even a pull tab signal (although I did eyeball the entire top to a can just as I was getting started)..then the detector shrieked (it was set on jewelry/beach) and due to the delightfull HIGH sound and not the grumble of iron, I almost did a happy dance prior to digging...cause I KNEW it hadda be something good. So I scoop and bullseye...and I saw a green metal bit and just about cried, heck, even the high signals suck now >:( I stick it in my apron and get back to business (bend and dig is good for the thighs).

So, I dug and dug and dug in my now honey hole, up and down and all around the general area close to the water and above the tide line.. I found smaller bits (who knew that even a 1/4 inch sliver of copper find would make your ears hurt with the sound??) but mostly the bits are uniform; about two inches long, 1 inch wide, rough edges (crude) some are of uniform thickness, but others appear to vary from end to end on thickness. They have been in the water long enough to be covered with the delightful green crude but lemme tell you the color underneath is beautiful, it just shimmers. I have them all soaking in distilled water. All of the pieces that appear to be uniform in size have horizonal impressions on them, about 1/4 wide fairly evenly spaced (not precise but gives the impression)...there are three on each piece they appear to be impressions versus carvings ect. It looks as if someone took a playdough roller when the copper was soft and just rolled it over the "sheet" leaving these marks.

I thought OH GREAT, I'm digging up some ship's plumbing...but not. These bits are flat, only one bit that is twisted could ever be wildly imagined to be part of a pipe. SO all around my honey hole I am digging these bits, and clad too...WHEE would not want to go home cladless...then I got to do my very first REAL happy dance...a 1941 Mercury Dime popped up. She's sea worn and not shiny silver color sorta dull gray from laying about in salt water for a long time..but she's my first :icon_sunny:

So dinnertime was bearing down on me; I swung all the way back to the house, not a &%&#* signal, not even a pull tab or a Lincoln, but dern if I didn't spend the three previous hours digging up clad and copper bits just as happy as a clam..

So, you folks ever heard anything like that in copper? I promise I will take photos but please be kind in complaining that they are not currently attached...getting this camera set up is a pain, and files converted, and I see the size limit is 256KB (the files I start with AFTER conversion will be about 10MB each). This is the last time i leave the little camera at home ;D And right about now I am feeling pretty proud of myself for making room in the trunk for the tripod even though I thought to myself, "I'll never use it."

tl;dr version: Size, weight, color (under the green) consistent with copper ..and I just wanted a few ideas about why the heck copper is laying about on the beach, in similar size bits, with similar size (2 inches long, 1 inch wide,) similar thickness with three horizonal impressions on it...did Pirates do Copper?

Thanks, and I will try to put some pics up later on this evening.
 

I read your interesting post and you may have hit a honey hole. It is unusual to find old silver at the beach. Where is Queen City? As far as the copper pieces, you may have found shrapnel from WWII bombing practice. Do they look like this? I will be looking forward to your pics.
 

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Well I'll be (#*$7 first answer is an answer:)

Sorry the pics are NOT going to be the best in focus, as I said this is a pro camera and I only have the 18x200 lens so close ups are not possible (ARGH on the other camera)...but drats just when I was thinking it MIGHT be gold because of the color not matching up with the penny ;Dyou gotta go and blast my dreams, but yeah, I do suppose it is shrapnel, this beach has many towers from that era and of course Lejeun is right, over...there ----> ;D

Thanks so much, at least I found a Mercury and I really DID dance on that one.

Pics are here at webshots since I do not have the time to get them small enough

http://community.webshots.com/album/563201438UaQiTj?vhost=community

and if you want to download them (you CAN download them from webshots but must use a converter to do anything else with them)
you can download all of them here

http://rapidshare.com/files/110050773/copperpics.zip.html

Well don't that just beat all...shrapnel:)

Beach is Topsail Island, I have good friends here and come every year, also used to live near here many years ago, but I live in the QUEEN CITY (Cincy OH). I have never found a dern thing here at Topsail (despite the potential) but teensy little occasional pocket spills...so finding that mercury was as good as finding PirateTreasure to me.
 

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Ah sorry your treasure was not gold this time. But Congrats on your first Merc. Still looking for mine.

And stop being a lurker and start posting more. You can spin a great little tale and I enjoyed reading your post.
 

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It's hard to make pulltabs, nails, and clad sound exciting or interesting :icon_study:

I did spend quite a bit of time summer before last sitting around parking meters and raking in the dough, but not one interesting coin was ever found (I did that with just my bullseye pinpointer!!!)....I've detected an old house (CIRCA 1900) but only found one wheat and a modern 15 cent pocket spill..UNLESS you count the fact that I was actually there searching for a friend's lost diamond bracelet....we tried so hard to find it. I didn't want to give up...but the roofers must have had daily nail drop contests (the yard was FULL of them..boxes and boxes) and the area she THOUGHT she lost it was near where the coal hole used to be so we dug lots of slag >:(

I was determined so I went back a third weekend..I tried the flower bed AGAIN...I got a good signal, I bent, used pinpointer dug a bit and my heart about jumped out of my chest when I pulled out a carat plus white gold solitaire (I was not looking for), then, my experienced hands hefted it and knew it was fake...my friend was watching LAUGHING HER donkey off...she planted it...that was dirty >:( she said the initial look on my face was priceless.

It's not that I don't find anything, this detector will find the teeny tiny back to a earring stud at 8 inches, it's just that....what I do find (digging every signal) is generally quite boring.

MY friend and I were hoping for Gold but I told her look, they were Germans, if they buried any Gold, trust me, they dug it up again ;D..no gold, but we did find some chicken bones and what looked like parts to an old fridge. Germans don't just "loose" things ;D.

So there you have it, I could post endless posts about endless clad and junk (and heck up until now even all my junk was boring because I could identify it) but soon people would stop looking because they would know right away what was in my post, another little pile of modern pennies nickles and dimes and you can only look at that so much. I was going to make my user name "naildigger" or something more truthful like that but I didn't want to set a negative tone ;D hope springs eternal when swinging a detector!!!

So I did finally find something, my gray little Mercury Dime (at first I thought it was a canadian coin, I mean, come on, it's me)...I think I will frame it, gray and all. It may be all I ever find, OR it COULD be the start of something big :icon_sunny: I don't think I will clean her.
 

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Enjoyed your post and glad you got an answer. Pretty sharp bunch on here.

Old_Okie
 

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Really enjoyed your story and it reminds me of me. Here is your pic. copper found on beach.webp I guess research, research and more research are most important. You cant find treasure if its not there. Finding that Merc was a good find for a beach and i wish i could find old shrapnel, its better than clad. :D Here is another shrapnel story. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,124889.0.html copper pieces.webp
 

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Pineapple type grenade or bomb? :icon_scratch: grenades pineapple.webp
 

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Great ID BigCy! :thumbsup:



GOLDandSilver - Your writing is superb... great opening story... start posting more!
 

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WOW thanks guys, I never would have guessed shrapnel but it totally makes sense. I conceed to your greatness, sigh, it's not gold >:( Pineapple grenades...you learn something every day.

As for treasure in the area (research), why the pirate lore down here is as thick as the air in Los Angeles! We have lots of pirate "stories" and a gold find here and there we even have our own "money pit" (Oak Island type thing).

I had another banner day, two hours=1 pull tab, one Lincoln, and one teeny tiny bit of iron. I tell you the excitement is building. I get it now, the treasure gods were toying with me..to keep me from getting discouraged...I have more missions in life to fulfill, they don't want me to stop, around the world pull tabs, nails, and other flotsam and jetsam of the treasure world is waiting for ME to find it..so they tossed me a mercury. Lemme tell you, if that does not make the banner I am going to pout for a week :icon_jokercolor:

Tomorrow I am going to hit a bit of the island that gold HAS been found on...there's pull tabs out there calling my name ;D
 

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