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[Martingeetars]

I've been hunting a site that is about 7 miles from another mission site and have found lots of crockery, porcelain and black glass along with points and a very nice dicoidal, can anyone I.D. any of these pieces to give me maybe a time line of when this particular style , type of glass or pottery ware was used and if so, english , spanish or more modern? Gatorboy you seem to have alot of knowledge of so things can you or anyone else help a fellow out! Two pics to show the pattern on the large piece.
If you click on the picture you can enlarge it more!

 

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[old digger]

Looks like you may be on to a good spot. I am not that knowledgeable on pottery, but hopefuly someone can help.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

 

[GatorBoy]

Hey there.. that spot looks to be English from the early to mid 1800's the ceramics appear to be transfer print Pearl ware.. of which I see some familiar pieces that came from a second Seminole war fort. Hope that helps. That site was more than likely chosen for a reason that would appeal to many people from many time frames. I would stick with that place. I tried to pick some examples that would fit that time frame.

 

[Martingeetars]

Looks good thanks!Some very similar pieces for sure, I wish I could metal detect this site I've just got a feeling about it.

 

[GatorBoy]

That was one of my first thoughts. I would not be surprised to find musket balls, old coins,buttons.. and that kind of thing. Some non metallic items to look out for would be clay pipes and musket flints. If there is any water nearby it would probably be good to do some sifting. Good luck.

 

[SOHIO]

good luck at this place martin.... good info gator

 

[SOHIO]

I find a lot of stuff like this myself watcha think this is ??

 

[SOHIO]

It has a seam in it ....it was in a mold.

 

[GatorBoy]

That's the stem section of a colonial elbow style pipe. A large producer of those was in Ohio. That pipe could be from the late 1800's to the early 1900's. A Reed would be inserted into the opening.

 

[SOHIO]

i found that on an adena site ...stepped on a blacksnake that day and found a 1921 penny there real close to the pipe section...was a fun day... i cant remember if i found any arrowheads that day

 

[GatorBoy]

 

[SOHIO]

That's the stem section of a colonial elbow style pipe. A large producer of those was in Ohio. That pipe could be from the late 1800's to the early 1900's. A Reed would be inserted into the opening.

oh so your also an expert on historical ohio ....you never cease to amaze me gatorboy....

 

[ChargerGuy]

I agree with GatorBoy's assessment. Most of those ceramics are post-1820. The types include: un-scalloped shell-edged pearlware, mocha ware, yellow ware, saltglazed stoneware, blue transfer print, and a hand painted ceramic (probably pearlware).

 

[GatorBoy]

Nice job.. I feel lazy now that I didn't specify each piece. Welcome aboard by they way.

 

[GatorBoy]

I hope its OK to post this on your thread.. I just want to show some black on white transfer print I've pieced together at one site. I found two pieces today. Its been over a year and now I have 15 pieces.

 

[ChargerGuy]

Nice, hope the rest turns up for you!

 

[GatorBoy]

Thanks man

 

[BosnMate]

Out west Fort Vancouver was established in 1824-25 on the Columbia River across from Portland, Oregon. Visiting that fort, their museum showed the dishes and silverware that the fort Factor, Dr. John McLoughlin was eating his meals off of. It was the print blue like yours, only imported from China, with Chinese scenes on them. The early 1800's was the earliest occupation in the Northwest, American Fort Astoria in 1811, then in 1813 the British took over and named it Fort George, and I suspect they were eating off of Chinese porcelain, but don't know that for a fact. In California the Spanish were settling there in the 1700's. San Diego in 1769, and the town I'm from, San Luis Obispo, CA, the Mission dates to 1772, and I don't know what kind of porcelain they used, I've been in their museums, but it was long ago.

 

[kuger]

Out west Fort Vancouver was established in 1824-25 on the Columbia River across from Portland, Oregon. Visiting that fort, their museum showed the dishes and silverware that the fort Factor, Dr. John McLoughlin was eating his meals off of. It was the print blue like yours, only imported from China, with Chinese scenes on them. The early 1800's was the earliest occupation in the Northwest, American Fort Astoria in 1811, then in 1813 the British took over and named it Fort George, and I suspect they were eating off of Chinese porcelain, but don't know that for a fact. In California the Spanish were settling there in the 1700's. San Diego in 1769, and the town I'm from, San Luis Obispo, CA, the Mission dates to 1772, and I don't know what kind of porcelain they used, I've been in their museums, but it was long ago.

Transferware mostly(there is a Black/white plate almst identicle to Gators at Mission San Juan Baptista) ,and some China,Chinese Junks(Boats)were coming up the California Coast a lot earlier than most think!!!A great read is about the Frolic and the Pomo Indians (I keep every Transfer sherd I come across too)