Completely Unsearched Site! LCs, FE Cent, Relics...

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Sites like these are precisely why I spend so much time wandering the woods and pouring over old maps. There was a blip on one of the Beers maps, but there were no roads leading to it and no distinct natural features to orient to. I had good luck at my old sites this past weekend and I debated spending more time gridding them, but I've been meaning the find this site for awhile now and the weather simply couldn't be beat, so I elected to do some hiking.

It's a large section of woods, and after following some streams I hiked up a steep slope to find a series of rock walls. I followed the strongest wall over the crest of the hill and just down the other side was the cellar hole; perched on the edge of the hill! I fired up the detector and immediately started getting hit after hit, some only an inch underground. This site had never been detected before!

I spend three hours there and I know I barely scratched the surface, but it's a long hike back so I packed up and headed out of the woods with the promise to return. Here's just the first round of iron that I hiked out:

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There are quite a few more large pieces that I'll hike out bit by bit ( a 2 foot scythe and a large iron stove grate for instance) but these are a good start. There's also my favorite iron find:

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I finally dug a shingling hatchet! I've seen these posted from time to time and I love the shape, plus it's a new style for the axe head collection!

There were also a good number of different oil lamp assemblies.

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The first piece is pewter and looks like an oil reservoir to a lamp, but I'm curious if someone here knows differently. Oddly this piece was right on the surface under the leaf litter and looks like it was sawed off a larger piece many years back.

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I was so excited to find this; I can't believe they lost an entire candlestick holder! The stem and base are a little loose, but has a beautiful green patina and these don't seem to turn up often at homesites.

There were quite a few coins scattered around and many were just under the surface.

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The 1844 large cent was in the best condition; but there was also a draped bust large cent.

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No date, but interestingly the DBLC has a counter-stamp: "TD" I know there are tons of different counter-stamps out there, but does anyone know about this particular one?

There was one other large copper, but it has almost no features left besides the faint outline of a right-facing bust. What's intriguing is that the edge is reeded:

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I didn't know of any large coppers with reeded edges before now, so I'm definitely lost on this one.

There were three small coppers as well:

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An 1864 bronze IHP, an 1860 or 1864 cupro-nickel IHP, and an 1858 Flying Eagle cent!

The last isn't a coin, but a commemorative medal and my favorite find of the hunt:

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It's a Queen Victoria Coronation medal. The ground was fairly rough on it, but the front has "Born May 24, 1819" and the reverse has "Crowned June 28, 1838" and "Ascended the British Throne June 20, 1837" around the rim. I didn't even know these existed, much less expected to dig one, but it's a fascinating piece of history. I imagine it made it's way down from Canada and I can only guess as to why it ended up at this particular site.

There were quite a few of the other usual homesite relics:

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The miniature padlock was a surprise and a good reason to dig scratchy iron/non-ferrous signals. The zinc piece with holes appears to be a musical reed of some sort, but this is a new style to me. The salt-shaker top is pewter, and of course the ubiquitous parasol slide which was actually the first relic I dug! There were a number of pewter spoon fragments including one with a maker's mark: "C. Parker & Co." which is common for this area and date from 1840 to 1880. I also managed to save a very dainty brass rim to a daguerreotype picture box.

I also managed a very nice crotal bell:

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It came out of the ground just as shiny as you see it, and is in fantastic condition. Oddly it has a very faint "3" "2" and a "1" hand-engraved into the top near the stem. It doesn't look as neat as the usual identifying marks on these bells, so maybe leftover casting marks that they meant to remove.

There was also this brass wheel that looks like a broken pulley wheel.

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This was just the first-pass of the site mostly focusing on the areas directly adjacent to the cellar hole. I did find the trash pit and that alone will be tons to dig out, but I can't even imagine what else is still in the ground. No silver in this round, but with so many coins I'm certain that I'll find a few pieces hiding under the large signals and there are miles of fields (now forest) that I can hunt as well. This will be a fantastic series of hunts so stay tuned!
 

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nice finds i have one of those types of hatchet
 

does that large cent also have TD on it
 

Those are some amazing finds!! Please keep us posted on your future finds!! Great job!!
 

does that large cent also have TD on it?

No, just the draped bust large cent and only on the one side. The other side is almost slick with just a little bit of the wreath left. The braided hair large cent is unmarked.
 

Man those are some great finds. Sites like that are getting harder and harder to find... GOOD LUCK
 

Man those are some great finds. Sites like that are getting harder and harder to find... GOOD LUCK

Thank you! They definitely are getting harder to find, but somehow that makes it all the better when you do stumble upon one!
 

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There is so much to love and comment on with this post! You found an incredible site congratulations!!
 

The bust on your other copper reminds me a lot of the one on this page: British Coin Gallery - George III (scroll down to the 1806 one)

Could be a bank token of some kind too, like this one: https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/anc...7/Default.aspx

I've found a lot of Canadian bank tokens in our area so it could make sense.

I thought the type III halfpenny too, but the edges on those are plain. The bank token is a very good though and it appears the edge was reeded on some of those. Thank you for the info!

It's worn so smooth that it must have been in circulation for quite some time before being lost; hopefully I can find one there with a bit more detail.
 

Super Cool finds already.
That site should keep you busy for a good while.
Thanks for posting.
 

I've only found one site like that...I miss it soooo much... Keep us posted!!!!
 

Insane hunt! You must have been super excited to see the cellar hole then all the shallow targets. Great finds. Huge congrats!!
 

Dream site.

Congratulations on a very nice location and great recoveries.

Cheers

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Those are some amazing finds. I especially like the candlestick holder and crotal bell. Kudos to you on your research and hopefully there are more great relics to be found at this spot. Thanks for sharing.
 

Nice going on the site, a really great mix of finds for sure. Liking the coppers and the counter strike one. That's a very cool Vickie one I haven't seen before, nice keeper.
 

...wow what a great place to hunt ! keep us posted on when you plan on going back there...I'd love to see a live stream of the hunt if possible... share some of that digging excitement .:hello2:
 

Wow! Gotta love those untouched sites Paleo! I've only found 2 in all of my years detecting and some of my best relics and colonial coins came from them. Your relics including the small crotal and the candlestick are great. Never found a whole candlestick before, that's fantastic. I've got your copper ID'd for ya...a Canada Marquis Wellington Halfpeny Token from 1813, and yup, it has a reeded edge. Do a Google search with those terms and you can view the ebay example etc. Best of luck on returning to that site. There's much more lurking I'm sure!

John
 

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