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[cole1]

I had an hour to kill and a new program to try out on the DFX this afternoon. The is the first day in CT that I can honeslty say it was perfect for detecting. I headed out to the stone foundation where I found the 1777 USA Military button and various other stuff I have been posting on the site. I found this coin that says Britain and some other stuff on it. I can't make out the date on it and was wondering what would be the best way to clean it for myself so I can see the date. Is this a half penny does anyone know? Also, I found this tin thing about 8 inches down. It looks like it had some writing on it but I didn't think they would have used something like that back in that time. Any thoughts?

 

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[Montana Jim]

Your second item is sideways - it's half of the top of an "anchor" button...

 

[cole1]

Would these anchor buttons be really thin? Were they a button cover?

 

[Montana Jim]

Would these anchor buttons be really thin? Were they a button cover?

Part of a two-piece button... the piece you found is just the top, and yes... very thin!

In addition - I'm hesitant to declair it a military (Navy) button... but am still looking. I would think it's VERY post 1777 like yoour other button and am not thinking it's military... but a blazer button with an anchor.

 

[oldplacesnofinds]

The first one looks to be a Machins Mill halfpenny. Copper coin of New York. 1787??

 

[Montana Jim]

The first one looks to be a Machins Mill halfpenny. Copper coin of New York. 1787??

I agree!!! Great job!!!

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/machins_mills/machins_mills_halfpennies.htm

Check out the chart below! I'd get that thing graded.

 

[cole1]

My head is facing the wrong way..

What would be okay to use on the coin to expose the year?

 

[Montana Jim]

Oh sure - now you show the other side... LMAO

Hey - there are many versions of that coin... maybe??

I would not clean it at all.

It may also be one of many varieties of Connecticut Copper Coins

 

[cole1]

Thanks for your help id'ing that anchor. I can't believe how fast you got that.

 

[romeo-1]

That is a George II British half penny. It says BRITANNIA on one side and has a bust of George II on the other...probably 1740s...

 

[cole1]

Thanks..that one is almost identical. Is it made out of bronze? Doesn't look like copper.

 

[romeo-1]

It's copper...but some were made of bronze...

 

[PBK]

Your second item is sideways - it's half of the top of an "anchor" button...

Nice work, as always, MJ... a true "reflection" of your formidable ID skills!

 

[Montana Jim]

Thanks PBK - but I bombed the coin ID.. .LMAO

 

[diggerfororo]

Here is a little info on your coin. During the reign of George the II and the III copper coins were debased with tin. This reduced the cost to produce the coins. These copper coins did not fair well in the ground. If you will notice how your coin is pitted this was caused by the tin added to the copper. U.S. coins of the colonial period will not have this pitting but have a nice green petina. The amount of patina and the color depends on the PH of the soil.

Les

 

[romeo-1]

Thanks PBK - but I bombed the coin ID.. .LMAO

That's ok...it was a team effort!

 

[cole1]

It amazes me that you can post a shred of something on here and people can identify it.

Montana Jim - I should have posted the front of the button..my apologies. Where did you find your anchor button? I found something like it in Don T's book but it is listed as bronze sheet metal. Does that make sense?

Does anyone know what I can use on the coin to clean it? The button only has a $5.00 value but I would like to try something to bring out the date. I have tried a peroxide bath for about 30 seconds, and it started getting dark so I took it out.

 

[Montana Jim]

Montana Jim - Where did you find your anchor button? I found something like it in Don T's book but it is listed as bronze sheet metal. Does that make sense?

#1 - I did not find that button... YOU did! I made that picture from two pictures of YOUR button!

#2 - Bronze? I guess... but it's probably brass. It's age is an unknown to me... I can only advise that I think it's a generic civilian button with an anchor motif.

 

[cole1]

Are you kidding me? You looked at that shred of metal that was sideways and came up with an anchor? OMG...I'm totally impressed....have any guesses on the powerball numbers?

The button that I found in the Military Buttons of the American Revolution has a picture on page 107 of the Continental Navy and Marines button. They were made of either sheet metal or sheet brass and the motif was a single rope border and fouled anchor motif.

This is the first button I found from the site in April of this past year.