brianc053
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Hi everyone. A few weeks ago I posted a question about how to clean a large copper properly, and it led to some great suggestions and discussion. The coin ended up being a Draped Bust, though I couldn't make out a date. http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/650751-large-copper-how-clean-properly.html
This past weekend I found yet another large copper at the same farm I've been visiting for over a year, and this one was in even worse shape. I didn't post about it right away - I just set about trying to clean it. I thought I'd share the experience now.
I'll number the pictures and as I describe my approach I'll reference the pictures by number.
When it came out of the ground (Pic1) I was hopeful, but concerned. The prior coin had come out of the ground in a similar state, so I had a bad feeling this one was toasted. And it was (Pic2). I couldn't see any detail, and couldn't even figure out how to orient the coin.
It measured correctly for a US large cent (28mm, Pic3), but even after Andre's Pencils I couldn't see anything on this coin (Pic4).
So, I decided that I would get more aggressive. I figured I didn't have anything to lose, so I used a combination of hydrogen peroxide (didn't do much), electrolysis (produced good results) and apple cider vinegar to remove most of the copper corrosion (and I learned a new word: verdigris) (Pic5).
And it worked: the electrolysis revealed letters, and my son (with his young eyes) was able to read most of "AMERICA", and then I saw the "O""N" of ONE CENT in the middle. (Pics 6 and 7) (We're 90% sure we've got this right).
So now I just needed to figure out whether it was another Draped Bust (probably) or a Cap (not likely). Based on the placement of AMERICA I was already sure it wasn't a Flowing.
And on Draped vs. Cap I'm still not 100% sure, but I don't see any evidence of a cap so I'm assuming by default that it's another Draped Bust. I think I can see the Draped Bust outline looking right on the obverse (Pic 8 and Pic 9 for comparison), but I could also just be filling in the blanks with my imagination.
Like other finds at this farm, I gave this one to the landowner. His extended family - a couple aunts and uncles, his cousins, about a dozen in total - happened to be there at the time when I found the coin (Pic 10 of the farm at sunset), so I'm sure they'll enjoy seeing it cleaned up (even if it's toasted). I made them a little one-page printout that explained what it was (Pic 11).
Overall, great experience! Thanks for tagging along.
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Pic 10 Pic11
This past weekend I found yet another large copper at the same farm I've been visiting for over a year, and this one was in even worse shape. I didn't post about it right away - I just set about trying to clean it. I thought I'd share the experience now.
I'll number the pictures and as I describe my approach I'll reference the pictures by number.
When it came out of the ground (Pic1) I was hopeful, but concerned. The prior coin had come out of the ground in a similar state, so I had a bad feeling this one was toasted. And it was (Pic2). I couldn't see any detail, and couldn't even figure out how to orient the coin.
It measured correctly for a US large cent (28mm, Pic3), but even after Andre's Pencils I couldn't see anything on this coin (Pic4).
So, I decided that I would get more aggressive. I figured I didn't have anything to lose, so I used a combination of hydrogen peroxide (didn't do much), electrolysis (produced good results) and apple cider vinegar to remove most of the copper corrosion (and I learned a new word: verdigris) (Pic5).
And it worked: the electrolysis revealed letters, and my son (with his young eyes) was able to read most of "AMERICA", and then I saw the "O""N" of ONE CENT in the middle. (Pics 6 and 7) (We're 90% sure we've got this right).
So now I just needed to figure out whether it was another Draped Bust (probably) or a Cap (not likely). Based on the placement of AMERICA I was already sure it wasn't a Flowing.
And on Draped vs. Cap I'm still not 100% sure, but I don't see any evidence of a cap so I'm assuming by default that it's another Draped Bust. I think I can see the Draped Bust outline looking right on the obverse (Pic 8 and Pic 9 for comparison), but I could also just be filling in the blanks with my imagination.
Like other finds at this farm, I gave this one to the landowner. His extended family - a couple aunts and uncles, his cousins, about a dozen in total - happened to be there at the time when I found the coin (Pic 10 of the farm at sunset), so I'm sure they'll enjoy seeing it cleaned up (even if it's toasted). I made them a little one-page printout that explained what it was (Pic 11).
Overall, great experience! Thanks for tagging along.
Pic1 Pic2
Pic3 Pic4
Pic5
Pic6 Pic7
Pic8 Pic9
Pic 10 Pic11
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