Clay gin bottle?

[s/v somewhere]

Found this a few days ago, one picture is exactly how I found it laying and the next one is after I had cleaned it up. Unfortunately, no writing on it, but I am going to assume dutch.
I know there are a lot of people with good information on this forum and the one I usually follow, even though I have never posted before, so I thought it would be a good place to ask if/how I dated anchors? Can anyone lead me in that direction?
Thanks

 

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[wreckdiver1715]

Promenade, welcome to the Forum. I am sure you will find the answer about the bottle. we have many bottle experts on his site. nice find!

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[PBK]

Probably a Dutch gin, as stated; however, it might also be a German mineral water bottle from the same period:

http://potweb.ashmol.ox.ac.uk/PotChron7-31.html

http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=22999

 

[Darren in NC]

Promenade,

Welcome to the forum. I'm always glad to see someone in action join us

As to your question about anchors, check out Potter's book, Treasure Diver's Guide. It has a whole section on anchors - with cautions about using them exclusively to date a wreck.

All the best to you,
Darren

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Excellent find. With no markings and unglazed, I also agree that its Dutch.

Welcome to the forum and we are looking forward to more of your finds! Thanks for sharing.

Dating anchors? Ok you have been out to sea too long,sailor. There are plenty of nice girls on shore.

Theres alot on the internet about iron anchor dating ,but here is a start

http://www.nvo.com/baldtus/po003data/

http://www.solarnavigator.net/anchors.htm

 

[treasurediver]

Dating an anchor

If you post a clear picture, we could probably date the anchor to within 50 years. However, I have often moved and used anchors that were hundreds of years old myself, so did most mariners in the past. To date a shipwreck, the context is the most important factor.
Treasurediver

 

[s/v somewhere]

Thanks for the welcome and answers. They are appreciated! Although in my case, I would be looking for male sailors on shore to date instead of anchors, not girls! I will get on looking up the anchors, and I will take a couple pictures and post them and see what people come up with for dates. Anchors, and bottles are kind of my passion.
I would have sworn up and down that this was a dutch gin bottle, but looking at the pics of the german mineral bottles, it is sure similar! I am still leaning toward the dutch though, because it is very much like this gin bottle I have posted a picture of on this post and i can definitely place this one in Holland as the inscription on the side says "Van Hoytema and Co Holland" the one is this post is 12 inches high and has a base of 3 and a half inches and the one I posted that started this thread is 10 inches high and 3 inches on the base. They look pretty similar when I look at them side to side.
They were found in the same place,but that really does not mean much, as it is a place that many boats from all over the world congregated at. These bottles are buried down deep, but the anchors on the truly large boats bring them up occasionally without them breaking, and voila! you find a bottle.
I have enjoyed following this forum for the last year, and i will be glad to share more finds.

 

[s/v somewhere]

You know Cornelius, I never once thought that the bottle itself would have been made in another country! But now that you mention it it makes perfect sense to me! I guess that is why you are the researcher and thank you for the information. Although it is glazed, are you saying that a dutch bottle looks more like this one? It has no ears.
I am afraid, that although my work allows me to spend a lot of time in the water and find things, I have not had very much time to research these yet, so I have very basic knowledge.

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Great Finds Promenade...I am really looking forward to more of pictures. Sorry about the sailor slip up! Would love to hear more about your diving adventures.