✅ SOLVED civil war I.D. has date 1850 on it

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While most certainly Victorian era it's not necessarily CW era and IMO not military either. Can you see what else is written on the bottom scroll?
 

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button king said:
It says patented 1850 on the bottom
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Why do you believe this item is from the civil war? The patent date of 1850 is well before the civil war, and the look and object of the item does not look remotely military.

it is very interesting though. I blew your picture up to %400 original size. There are more words on the bottom than "Patented 1850" The bottom loop says "PAT _ _ _ 1850"? What are the middle letters? If they are a MONTH, it would greatly assist us in helping you solve your item.

Further, above the bottom loop on the scroll, there are additional words. I think it is a person or company's name, and it looks like the last name is "MYNITT" Am I correct on the last name? What is the first name?


I did a cursory search for the name Mynitt, and numerous results come up for Shakesperian plays, which the figure on your item closely resembles.


Please give us some more info to assist you.
 

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Kevo_DFX said:
Why do you believe this item is from the civil war? The patent date of 1850 is well before the civil war, and the look and object of the item does not look remotely military.

it is very interesting though. I blew your picture up to %400 original size. There are more words on the bottom than "Patented 1850" The bottom loop says "PAT _ _ _ 1850"? What are the middle letters? If they are a MONTH, it would greatly assist us in helping you solve your item.

Further, above the bottom loop on the scroll, there are additional words. I think it is a person or company's name, and it looks like the last name is "MYNITT" Am I correct on the last name? What is the first name?


I did a cursory search for the name Mynitt, and numerous results come up for Shakesperian plays, which the figure on your item closely resembles.


Please give us some more info to assist you.
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well the reason why i thought it was cw was because it looks like the massachusetts state flag it looks just like it:icon_scratch: and i cant make out the word in front of the pat
 

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Patents were good for 21 years so I think its possible to be manufactured during the CW but it could also be before or after. 1850-1871

You gotta tell us the month and day and we have a good chance of finding it.8-) View attachment 629115
 

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It is a suspender buckle and dead on 1850's.I have seen several come from sites pre dating the C.W.....and had no affiliation with any war
 

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idk it matches the buttons pretty closely. could it be a part of a family coat of arms? my family has one that has the family seal and then another piece i assume denotes a location.
 

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CKaufman said:
idk it matches the buttons pretty closely. could it be a part of a family coat of arms? my family has one that has the family seal and then another piece i assume denotes a location.
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Doubtful...did you see I have seen,"several",dug....a long long ways from where this one came from
 

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kuger said:
It is a suspender buckle and dead on 1850's.I have seen several come from sites pre dating the C.W.....and had no affiliation with any war
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Kuger is absolutely correct. The item is the front portion of a suspender buckle, featuring the Massachusetts state seal. These are 100% 1850's era, and not of any military issue or affiliation.

The first photo shows how a complete buckle was originally constructed. This is the only complete example I have ever seen found, including the rivet and ring. This was just recently dug by my father from a pre-Civil War site. Dad always seems to have a good idea where the early stuff is! Of course he grew up knowing Civil War veterans, so he has the inside scoop on the old stuff! 8-)

The second photo includes a couple buckles from a friends collection.

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You are quite welcome Button King. :icon_thumleft:

These Massachusetts suspender buckles are certainly rather uncommon finds. Over the years, I have seen maybe 10 or 12 examples, most of which are the top portion only. They have turned up in a variety of sites covering several states across the country.

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CC Hunter said:
Kuger is absolutely correct. The item is the front portion of a suspender buckle, featuring the Massachusetts state seal. These are 100% 1850's era, and not of any military issue or affiliation.

The first photo shows how a complete buckle was originally constructed. This is the only complete example I have ever seen found, including the rivet and ring. This was just recently dug by my father from a pre-Civil War site. Dad always seems to have a good idea where the early stuff is! Of course he grew up knowing Civil War veterans, so he has the inside scoop on the old stuff! 8-)

The second photo includes a couple buckles from a friends collection.

CC Hunter
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:icon_thumright:...These were the "several",I was speaking of.I know of one other as well.Awesome find B.K!!
 

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