✅ SOLVED civil war flag pole pice ?

[Mark1985]

i found this a few days ago its had wood still inside any idea what it is. its brass

 

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[duggap]

Kinda looks like a scabbard for a sword or knife.

 

[creskol]

Looks like a candlestick holder that has become detached from its base plate.

 

[kuger]

Looks like a candlestick holder that has become detached from its base plate.

Thats exactly what it is,or a slide parasol piece....
http://www.cowanauctions.com/auctions/past-item.aspx?ItemId=64824

 

[Breezie]

I'm with Kuger; it looks like an umbrella or parasol piece especially with the splayed end on the right. WELCOME to the forum Breezie

 

[creskol]

I'm with Kuger; it looks like an umbrella or parasol piece especially with the splayed end on the right. WELCOME to the forum Breezie

I thought about its being a parasol slide, too, but couldn't mentally picture the tabs at the end as they would relate to the mechanism. So, my mind being what it is, I started visualizing some of the more cheaply made tall candlesticks I have seen, where tabs affix the holder to the base in lieu of a screw, and mixed those thoughts with what appears to be a slot in the tube as shown in Mark's bottom left photo, and came up with the following reconstruction. Of course that really doesn't mean a whole lot, and it still could be a parasol slide, but I had fun playing anyway.

 

[tennessee digger]

I think Creskol is right! Good job. Tennessee digger

 

[Mark1985]

Yes thank you creskol I think ur right !

 

[Breezie]

I thought about its being a parasol slide, too, but couldn't mentally picture the tabs at the end as they would relate to the mechanism. So, my mind being what it is, I started visualizing some of the more cheaply made tall candlesticks I have seen, where tabs affix the holder to the base in lieu of a screw, and mixed those thoughts with what appears to be a slot in the tube as shown in Mark's bottom left photo, and came up with the following reconstruction. Of course that really doesn't mean a whole lot, and it still could be a parasol slide, but I had fun playing anyway.

Hey Creskol Your mind and mine generally run together on ID-ing stuff, and your theory is a good one . . . .but I don't think I've ever seen a wooden stick inside of a brass candle holder. Of course, I'm sure there is at least one somewhere in the world. I'm headed out to church now, so I don't have time to post a pic, but don't you remember those round splayed out rings that fit in the top of parasols? (I have several & will take pics later.) Perhaps this is a later version where the round, splayed ring was built into the base. Just a though, Breezie

 

[creskol]

Hey Creskol Your mind and mine generally run together on ID-ing stuff, and your theory is a good one . . . .but I don't think I've ever seen a wooden stick inside of a brass candle holder. Of course, I'm sure there is at least one somewhere in the world. I'm headed out to church now, so I don't have time to post a pic, but don't you remember those round splayed out rings that fit in the top of parasols? (I have several & will take pics later.) Perhaps this is a later version where the round, splayed ring was built into the base. Just a though, Breezie

Remember? are you kidding? I have a hard time with that function anymore. I am sure your mind is way sharper than mine these days, Breezie, so I will yield to your expertise... A parasol handle it is.

 

[Breezie]

Remember? are you kidding? I have a hard time with that function anymore. I am sure your mind is way sharper than mine these days, Breezie, so I will yield to your expertise... A parasol handle it is.

Creskol, Remembering .. LOL . . .yes, I know exactly what you're talking about! Sometimes I'll go to the kitchen, and when I get there, I think, why did I come in here?

I don't know for sure what this piece is, so I figure what item(s) would have a brass sleeve exterior and a wooden stick interior? The most logical to me is either a parasol/umbrella handle part or either a flag holder or the likes. It very well could be a flag pole holder with the splayed end set in a base very much like your candle base. Here is a TNet site with some great pics of period parasols: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/321303-brass-parasol-slides-i-just-dont-see.html

Breezie

 

[Mark1985]

Breezie you know what you just solved it because I found 3 of those other lil pices that look like cogs

 

[Breezie]

Breezie you know what you just solved it because I found 3 of those other lil pices that look like cogs

Those cogs are called parasol or umbrella 'slides' and if you found 3 of those in the same area, more than likely your item is an umbrella stick. Breezie

 

[Mark1985]

I did find 3 of them thanks every one for all the help no Idea of the date on something like that is there ?